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Palestine leaks to hurt Abbas : Comments

By Antoun Issa, published 31/1/2011

The PA hoped to wound its enemies by cutting deals with Israel, but have ended-up looking weak and supine itself.

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There is a strong possibility that whatever has happened in the past, negotiations, tentative agreements etc., will all become of little interest to the Palestinian people if the anticipated Egyptian changes which followed the Tunisian actions develop enough fervour to culminate in real elections and the appointment of a leadership truly representing the people and their ambitions, the elimination of the evil occupier, Israel, the most disliked state in the world.

This is likely to happen as a pride in purpose develops and they can see and end to the apartheid state and ethnic cleansing. The world, with the exception of Israel and the US, both with vested interest otherwise, will support a rise to democracy in so many states and countries as an opportunity to progress the people into the 21st Century becomes evident with the help of developed states such as Iran.

This could be the beginning of a new era for progress, with or without the Zionists
Posted by Rhys Stanley, Monday, 31 January 2011 6:14:37 AM
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Rhys says:

//the elimination of the evil occupier, Israel, the most disliked state in the world.//

Hmmmm.... did you just finish reading Volume II of Mein Kampf Rhys?

"evil occupier" eh ?

How about another view. "Rightful owners of historic indigenous land, forced into exile by the Romans, their land further pillaged and populated by invading Muslims, finally RIGHTED a long festering historic WRONG.. by the same means it was originally taken from them"

i.e......FORCE.

Did I forget "God given land"?

You might want to re-think your history Rhys.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Monday, 31 January 2011 8:12:58 AM
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A bit more.

From the article:

//Much has already been made in the international media of the extremely generous Palestinian offer to Israel to annex the majority of Jewish settlements - deemed illegal under international law - in East Jerusalem.//

I can tell you all now, with absolute assurance.. the Israeli's have the following goals.

1/ Complete takeover and de/repopulation of the whole of Jerusalem
2/ Complete takeover and repopulation (displacing Palestinians) of the whole West bank.

Doubt me ? :) watch, as history unfolds.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Monday, 31 January 2011 8:16:55 AM
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ALGOREisRICH states:
I can tell you all now, with absolute assurance.. the Israeli's have the following goals.
1/ Complete takeover and de/repopulation of the whole of Jerusalem
2/ Complete takeover and repopulation (displacing Palestinians) of the whole West bank.
Doubt me ? :) watch, as history unfolds.

It has been quite clear during protracted negotiations during recent decades that these are the real Israeli goals and it is useful that ALGOREisRICH makes this clear and thereby demonstrates that the Israelis have not been negotiating in good faith. They want an apartheid state based on a false claim that the whole of Palestine was originally theirs a few thousand years ago and they cannot be trusted to negotiate with any honesty or morality, despite what the rest of the world thinks.

The achievement of these goals would create an illegal State based on the idea of racial superiority. The pursuit of these goals will create continuing serious problems for the world, and will ensure that the State will never have peace and security.

Israel has made sure that a two state solution is now unlikely and a one state solution cannot exist on apartheid principles. They are going to have to accept the idea that they are not a superior race and will have to share the land with non-Jews if they ever want peace, security and respect.
Posted by Stan1, Monday, 31 January 2011 10:37:16 AM
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For Stan1

"They are going to have to accept the idea that they are not a superior race and will have to share the land with non-Jews if they ever want peace, security and respect".

Yes, I agree with peace and security but not respect. They will never regain that for what they have done since 1948. The world overcame Nazism, the world overcame Apartheid in Africa and the world will overcome Zionism in all its evil forms.

But respect, unlikely.
Posted by Rhys Stanley, Monday, 31 January 2011 11:05:57 AM
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Sorry, this is a bit off topic. Was anyone else getting the Scientology advertisements for the CCHR in the article? This is a worrying direction for OO.

Back on topic, thanks for the article. The leaked papers certainly don't show anyone involved in the negotiations in a good light. It is sad too think that after 20 years any two state peace agreement seems further away than ever.

However perhaps a one state solution is a step closer. This has always seemed a more just outcome.
Posted by Mickey K, Monday, 31 January 2011 1:17:15 PM
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