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'R'Oil indignation : Comments

By Walt Brasch, published 17/6/2010

The British are upset with the United States for blaming 'British' Petroleum for that nasty little oil spill in the Gulf.

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Let us put the blame where it belongs, with the green movement which has relentlessly and unfortunately, successfully campaigned to force oildrilling to untenable locations.

From the reports of the technology developed to cope with the stresses, now proven to be intolerable, of drilling and putting into production, oil wells in ridiculous places, it is top class, and ingenious.

If the US known oil reserves were accessed, we would cease to be hostage to Arab oil producers, and cease to be hostage to the insanity of the greens, who have managed to exclude oil drilling from accessible locations.

Alaska is not all that accessible, but it leaves drilling 5 km under the ocean for dead, and would lend itself far better to containment of accidental spills.

How about a worthwhile investment in studies to demonstrate where the campaigns of the green movement are based on lies, and are having the effect of undermining the US economy, and necesary oil production?

BP has done an impressive best that it can, and should be supported. We should put the blame where it belongs, and take appropriate action.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 17 June 2010 3:17:40 PM
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Leo that is the most blatant misdirection of blame I have ever seen. The greens have no case at all to answer for this disgusting and avoidable catastrophe. BP cut corners to save money and they took the risk that they would be ok. They were wrong. They lost the bet. Now they must pay the price.
A competent risk analysis of such things would show that the consequences of an accident are so catastrophic and extreme that even if it is only a tiny chance of happening the risk is still too great. Heads must roll and if it leads to the demise of BP then so be it. These bastard companies want personhood then let them be put to death like other evildoers are. If an individual had caused this they wouldnt be seeing the light of day ever again.
Obama , like Rudd has shown his inexperience and cowardly weakness once again and until both these men can show some balls and stand up to the big end of town then they are destined to be voted out and remembered as failures.
Posted by mikk, Thursday, 17 June 2010 4:00:34 PM
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"Let us put the blame where it belongs, with the green movement which has relentlessly and unfortunately, successfully campaigned to force oildrilling to untenable locations."

Leo Lane - Only in your La La Land and your allegations are inanely foolish since BP has a documented history of incidents and is a recidivist polluter, having over 8,000 spills of oil, dangerous chemicals, gases etc since 1990, as well as allegations of human rights' abuses which has precisely zilch to do with any 'green' movement.

In 2006, a group of Colombian farmers won a multimillion pound settlement from BP after the oil and gas company was accused of benefiting from a regime of terror carried out by the Colombian government paramilitaries to protect their 800km pipeline.

Big oil from the West also has an ignominious record of bribing despotic governments and militia - from the Amazon to Africa, to protect their operations while they pollute and plunder the lands of developing countries and destroy the livelihoods of local communities.

That's the reality Leo Lane so kindly desist from perpetuating your falsehoods.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=BP#Major_Litigation
Posted by Protagoras, Thursday, 17 June 2010 9:27:53 PM
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There is a current article about the ridiculous situation on oil drilling in the US, where the columnist says:
“The U.S. government could cause our reserves to skyrocket overnight by opening new areas, on land and in shallow water, to drilling. But the U.S. is the only country in the world that has deliberately chosen not to develop its own energy resources. No one else is that dumb.”

The article is here:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/06/026535.php

The government removes potential oil fields, in accessible places, from availability, and then does not count them in oil reserves, not because there is not a huge amount of accessible oil there, but because they have blocked it from legal access.

Who made you the judge and jury on BP, mikk? It is a huge company, and even with the expertise it has, there will be negative results at times in the industry in which it operates. It performs a valuable service in a vital industry, and sensible people acknowledge this.

Obama, in his mendacious manner, asserts that we have run out of land and shallow water access, to oil.

There are huge reserves available by reversing the laws which block access, and cause a situation which would not have occurred in a reasonably accessible field.

If the green movement did not bring this situation about, then please enlighten me, how did it come about?

Let us find out, so that we can fix the cause of the problem, which is not BP. BP and the fishing industry are the victims. The perpetrators regard it as an opportunity to block even more access to oil, if enough people are blind to their guilt.

We can make it possible for companies like BP to carry out their valuable service to the community, without dangerous hurdles, making their operations dangerous and outrageously costly.

Consider what you are saying Protagoras, before you confirm your inability to perceive reality.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 17 June 2010 10:58:49 PM
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"Consider what you are saying Protagoras, before you confirm your inability to perceive reality."

I am merely the messenger Leo Lane therefore, it is you who has an inability to perceive the reality which happens to be the officially documented evidence. Do you intend acknowledging the evidence that the messenger has provided - ie. that BP is a recidivist polluter or is it your intention to gag the messenger?:

"Leo Lane - Only in your La La Land and your allegations are inanely foolish since BP has a documented history of incidents and is a recidivist polluter, having over 8,000 spills of oil, dangerous chemicals, gases etc since 1990, as well as allegations of human rights' abuses which has precisely zilch to do with any 'green' movement."
Posted by Protagoras, Friday, 18 June 2010 1:07:22 AM
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Leo you are echoing exactly what most Americans are saying and I'm in the US right now and have not met anyone who thinks Woebama is doing a good job or that BP are there deliberately doing this, it's an accident and that's how people, reasonable people see it..

Woebama finally woke up to the fact the "disaster" was "on his watch", 6 weeks after the event, and even then CONTINUED TO PLAY GOLF! (Jeez, what would have happened if President Bush had played golf while a stuffup was going on, like Katrina. Even after Louisiana said they didn't need help eh .. why the liberals would have gone mad .. oh.)

Yes, the drillers were and are forced offshore to perform high risk extraction, and of course it is risky - but then again, Woebama is always finding someone to blame. Even as he does nothing and fiddles with the edges - a definite one term president (thankfully).

Woebama is even being laughed at by Jon Stewart for his careful framing of resource information, i.e. telling lies.

This will blow over, as these things always do, even the Exxon Valdez now in hindsight and after all the reports done lately on the scene tell the same sort of story you'd expect, life goes on.

The hysteria of a few eco doomsayers becomes like the droning buzz of the vuvuzela .. same old same old. No solutions to the energy issues driving exploration, just blame and the usual whining. Do people care, not much because these things always get blown out of proportion at the time .. like the recent disaster on the Barrier Reef when a ship ran aground, how's that going by the way .. does anyone know or care once the pollies and hysteria is over?

BP has responded the way it has to according to media managers, you know, like the ones who run the Democrats in the US and the ALP in Australia .. there will be something else in the news tomorrow.

This is as much BP's fault as it is the Woebama government.
Posted by Amicus, Friday, 18 June 2010 6:30:20 AM
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