Peter Ryan was going to revolutionise the NSW police force and eliminate corruption.Instead they changed the name to Police Service so they remain subserviant to a legal system that justifies all manner of debauchery and poor behaviour defined as rights that must be maintained at all costs.

Anything our NSW Govt does is always over shadowed by fear of litigation.They are comatose with fear,thus this mentality permeates the whole of their Public Service.No courageous decisions are made and individuals cannot think for themselves for fear of legal ramifications.Is it any wonder that our police service cannot decipher a media prank from reality?

Well done to the Chasers of the ABC since they have revealed a society too constrained by our legal disease and a gutless State Govt in continual damage control.

Are you going to answer my questions about ATSIC Arjay or are you trying to hide from me?

Gee Rainer,read my last retort.I didn't know that Atsic was abolished.My builder friend tells a true story.These negotiations can take years.He went to help in Thailand after the Tsunami, so don't try to denergrate all those whom you have an ideological difference with.Get the chip off you shoulder and happiness will follow.

What the chasers did to show up the 330 million dollar kangaroo strength wall of shame, just proves something. No matter how much of our taxes you waste on a second rate military conference, which is what APEC has become, with a little trade, a tickle of culture and the environment on the side, and a few billion dollars of our tax payers money, Howard comes out smug that he has so much money to spend.

Meanwhile, they are targeting old age pensioners with Alzheimer's with letters from Centrelink that they were overpaid in 2002. Now, of course they can't remember what they are talking about as they have Alzheimers. In every letter, it is generic. $1,200 I know of 6 threats with the same story, the same threat to the same demographic.

So while they spend millions on this ugly wall and Soviet style security, which is useless, they are literally taking the teeth out of pensioners.

They are useless at welfare, they are useless at diplomacy, they are useless in business, to sum up, this Government is useless. It has the backing of George W Bush, voted the worst President in history by a majority of Australians and Americans. Where does that leave Howard in his spending spree?

So by comparision Saintfletcher,do you think that the NSW Govt is good and responsible?If the polls are correct the Coalition is gone no matter who they put in as leader,however putting ideology aside, they are the best Govt economically we've had for decades and if you can't balance the books good intentions are meaningless.

it's your own fault, stf: you're afraid of democracy, and yet discontented with pollie rule. if you give power to pollies, this is what you get.

oz could have democracy, with a little effort, but it would need citizen quality people. fearful whingers have to make do with being ruled by arrogant and incompetent grifters.

Agreed saintfletcher; absolutely agree!

No Arjay,

Don't try to get out of it. You made that story up to appear to have some credibility. You got caught out and by me - thats what pss's you off.

But thats not all is it.

Its like that stupid story about your old neighbour and how you apparently did some odd jobs for her.

Or what about that one about you being some big time business player hard done by unions.

Your a legend in your own lunchbox Arjay, but your lunch box only has a tired old meat bag in it.

How pathetic!

Arjay
Your totally correct and thanks for this thread.
All the Chasers have done is lived up to our world wide name as having a good sense of humur and all will see it that way except for ALP.
They cant put cops in police stations so how can they protect Sydney.
It was probably a good laugh for the world leaders at APEC and laughing is the best way to make new frends/.
John Howard has done us proud by putting Australia on the map
I wouldnt mind getting my hands on the lot of them as they sit there talkng about sendng our jobs off by exproting raw materials that make jobs and sending Animals to a most barbaric trade and death.
Australia we can do better than ths lets get rid of both Howard and Rudd.
Time for an inderpendant Government
Good Luck to the Chasers they have kicked a goal

Cops might benefit from a intelligence course at the acadamy based on themes from crime and spy novels. Get some free thinking into the men and women. You get fed so much that is rigid facts and figures at the acadamy that in the end there is little room for independent thought. By the time you leave the acadamy youre part of the hive. You sign on at work, you do your files, you do your patrol or beat work, you do you car smashes...then you go home. Its too regimented. The Chasers penetration might easily have been visualised before it occured. Im still surprised at times how old fashioned the NSW Police service is.

APEC and The Chasers - The first line of defence that let the Chasers pass through were special APEC Security Guards (not Police), the Police line was behind them and they did their job. The Security Guards passed the Chasers through to the second line of defense (the NSW Police) the Police checked the vehicles and the Chasers were apprehended and arrested - true story - nobody wants to tell the truth - not a big enough story.
Good work NSW Police if not for the you its anybodys guess what would have happened during the APEC meeting.