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The Forum > General Discussion > Referendum: Before we vote: What is an aborigine ?

Referendum: Before we vote: What is an aborigine ?

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Take the word Racist out of the daily language & the Racists would have nothing to talk about !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 10 September 2022 10:46:41 AM
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Here we go again. Same old arguments. Same old
misconceptions. Same old misinformation, same old
anti-sayers.

This topic has been discussed many times on this forum.
And yet here it is again. "Mischief-making" at its peak.
Have you guys run out of anti-climate change arguments
to have to now draw attention to the Voice to Parliament.

Ah well, here goes (again):

Firstly, The Voice to Parliament that has been recommended
is a straight forward plan that resolves the problem of
how indigenous people survive into the future. The proposal
would not empower indigenous Australians. Legislation
remains in the hands of parliament.

The Voice to Parliament called for by the 2017 Uluru
Statement of the Heart is necessary because Australia's
Constitution "remains racist."

There are 2 racist provisions in it and the High Court decision
that the Commonwealth can do harm to the indigenous people
stands. For far too long Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander
people had to tolerate a "type of structural racism that
treated them as a race."

They are not a race. They're over 600 cultural groups. This was
their land until 1788. They're not a race - they-re the people
of this land. And they're simply asking for decency and a
rightful place in the nation.

Plus, it's a common perception that it is enough to identify
as Aboriginal to count as one. That is incorrect.
An Aborigine has to be accepted as such by the Aboriginal
community and be able to prove descent. This has been
widely accepted at several court cases. Therefore there are
3 criteria - descent, self-identification, and community
recognition.

But despite being told all this - I'm sure you all will
continue to find reasons on why you should not vote
for the Voice to Parliament. After all you're such
decent creatures - with the born to rule mentality.
This country needs more like you. You're the "true Aussies"
after all. Yay!
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 September 2022 10:48:51 AM
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There you go - now I've given you guys enough
reasons to attack me - so go for it. Because
that's in your ancestry - that's what you guys
love to do!
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 September 2022 10:55:04 AM
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Hi Foxy,

"type of structural racism that treated them as a race."

Are they going to give up all the extra benefits they get from being a marginalised or minority race (sorry group) or is this just a one-way thing?

This country certainly doesn't give a rats backside about being openly disparaging towards white (race) now.
Seems like they're going from one extreme to the other without fixing anything.

What about 'ethnicity' quotas, is that about being fairer to minorities or about about being racist to whites?
And that's a matter of general policy now Foxy.

If we're talking about fairness, are we going to change that?

How about all these people getting funded for University, but never having to pay it back?
Older Aussies didn't get those benefits, they had to do the hard labour, and now have to pay for the entitled generations.

Are they going to start paying for their own tuition of is this just another unfair tax on the white majority, and a transfer of wealth to the minorities?

If you're all up on your high horse about fairness, that is?

There's no need to attack others when you can argue based on merit in the first place, is there Foxy?
Does anyone have a link to the exact changes being proposed in this Bill?
Show me the facts.

Politicians play whack-a-mole anyway, why would we trust any of them?
They try to fix one problem, but just end up creating more problems.
They're a bunch of useless incompetent halfwits, too busy burning up their travel allowances to have any spare time to actually focus on developing good policies.
Instead they leave it to industry groups to do the hard work for them, which never fixes any of the problems without creating more.

Fixing problems doesn't result in getting more funding, so it's rather pointless to the snouts in the trough isn't it?
About as pointless as pharmaceutical companies wanting people to be healthy, or war industries advocating for peace.
Or NGO's ending Domestic Violence for example
- There's just no money in success.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 10 September 2022 11:32:24 AM
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Hi Armchair Critic,

If your're really interested in answers - go to my
discussion under the "General Discussion," section
of this forum and you'll find my discussion (53 pages
of it) where I've discussed the issues, given links
and so on. I'm not going to rehash things here.
I'll leave that to you guys to do. I've done my part.

Cheers.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 September 2022 12:20:34 PM
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Hi AC,

I forgot to give you the name of the discussion:

It's - "If not now, When?"
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 September 2022 12:54:59 PM
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