Hi BP,

When I was a regular at the Temple, a few years back, and discussing these concepts of good and evil (bad); "If there is no bad, there can’t be any good" I believe people are inherently good, which opposes the Christian belief that people are inherently bad (sinners), and therefore in need of redemption, which can only be achieved through God's intermediary Christ. Our 'Wise One' at the Temple, she put forward the notion that good and bad only existed from our own personal view point, and we should be only concentrating on the good, as bad is only the absence of good as we define it. A simple analogy, the concept of 'hot and cold', there is no cold, only the lack of heat (hot). Good and bad are like hot and cold, just as only hot exists, only good exists, and like cold is the absence of hot, bad is the absence of good. Very hard concepts to rationalise.

"There is no such thing as morality in nature." I'll agree on that.
I recall some years back, with the grandchildren in the park, crows started attacking a young bird on the ground (aiming to kill it and eat it). From the kids perspective the crows were acting badly, and should be stopped. I tried to point out to them that the crows were simply doing what crows do, they couldn't understand it, morally it was wrong to them, and that was all that mattered.

"ttbn seems to me to be a decent fellow." I'll agree with that

Hi Paul,

To paraphrase W.C. Fields:

ttbn drove me to stronger medication and I
didn't have the decency to thank him. (Joke).

Melbourne socialite, fashion icon and philanthropist
Lillian Frank has died aged 92. Lillian passed away
peacefully on Friday. Her family was with her.

She had an amazing life. Born in Burma (Rangoon) in
1930. Her family fled during WWII after Japan invaded.
Her family fled to a refugee camp in Calcutta, then
travelled to London, and eventually ended up in Melbourne
where she forged a path as a hair stylist. She was my
hairdresser for many years.

She married restauranteur Richard Frank in 1956 and had two
daughters - Jackie and Michelle. Lillian Frank was part of
the Melbourne social scene and she gave millions and millions
to charities - including the Royal Children's Hospital and
Odyssey House here in Melbourne.

She was a dashing figure and her fund-raising lunches were
legendary.

She was loved by many and gave so much to the people of Melbourne.
As Rhonda Burchmore aptly said - "She was Melbourne!"

May she Rest in Peace!

I remember her with love.