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The Forum > General Discussion > Should Australia's dive in the Corruption Index rankings be an election matter?

Should Australia's dive in the Corruption Index rankings be an election matter?

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Steelereflux,

It's almost certainly due to the systemic corruption in Queensland and Victoria Labor.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 2 May 2022 4:45:58 PM
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There's not a single example of corruption in your post Aidan. While it might be regrettable it is not illegal for parties to favour particular constituencies.

And "persecution of whistleblowers" is not corruption either. Look at Queensland where some senior public servants - the Integrity Commissioner and the Auditor General have alleged that they were persecuted, but no one has suggested that is corruption.

That doesn't make either thing right, but if you characterise everything that doesn't meet the purest of standards as corruption, then everything is going to be corrupt.

I think that our handling of COVID was disastrous, but I wouldn't suggest that it was corrupt.
Posted by Graham_Young, Monday, 2 May 2022 5:58:50 PM
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Shadowminister,

So the State in which the premier was forced to resign due to shady deals and relationships revealed by their corruption watchdog doesn't get a mention from you? One myopic little chap aren't you.

Dear Graham,

If whistle blowers are hounded for revealing corrupt practices then those engaged in the hounding are acting corruptly.

Parties who sell access to ministers are in my opinion, and the court of public opinion, acting corruptly.

Pork barrelling in order to secure a continuation of employment is acting corruptly even if the political classes don't see it that way.

The stench of corruption around the LNP is pretty evident and 4 corners is about to add another instance to a very long list. The failure of political operatives to recognise this behaviour as corrupt is a huge part of the problem. For those of us who fondly remember Howard's robust ministerial codes of conduct it is depressing how far the standards have fallen.

The LNP really needs a term in opposition to get its house in order. Given Murdoch and Palmer's wallet it will be a big ask but for the sake of your party it really needs to happen.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 2 May 2022 7:17:15 PM
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Graham,
Corruption is not the same as illegality.

My first example was something that was regarded as corrupt in the 1990s. That the government, and indeed you, don't regard it that way now is part of the problem.

Persecution of whistleblowers allows corruption to flourish, and we should have passed whistleblower protection legislation like some other countries have done. Instead after misdeeds had been committed n the name of Australia, there were Federal Police raids on journalists and even lawyers. Worse still, secret trials have occurred. We should be condemning, not emulating, the corruption of the CCP!

We have a choice: truth or coverups. And unless we choose truth, corruption is inevitable - it really is that simple. Denying corruption is corruption certainly won't reduce its occurrence.

As for whether there's been corruption in the government's handling of Covid, I think it would be better to watch the 4 Corners episode before commenting further.
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 2 May 2022 7:52:15 PM
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The formula for CORRUPTION

ASPEN MEDICAL + LIBERAL PARTY = CORRUPTION.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-02/aspen-medical-political-access-pandemic-profits-four-corners/101022230
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 2 May 2022 10:30:42 PM
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Four Corners was trying too hard to find corruption in a situation where there was insufficient knowledge, logistical difficulties, incompetent bureaucrats & corrupt private individuals. That is a long way from being a corrupt LNP.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 5:57:05 AM
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