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A Woman Is An Adult Female Human Being

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Things that actually endanger girls' and
women's sports:

1) Underfunding.

2) Lack of cultural respect.

3) Predatory coaches and doctors.

4) The stubborn inaccurate belief that athleticism
is incompatible with femininity.

Do Trans people endanger girls' and women's sports?

As I stated earlier - there's not very much information
out there and even less that is really specific to
trans athletes. People have to make the best decisions
they can with the data that is available now.

The trans gender issue is important but so is protecting
the women's category in sport is also very important.
They have fought long enough to have fair competition in
sport.

In the meantime, sports scientists and researchers will
continue to debate and try to advise on what the best steps
forward will be.

Experts seem to agree that the current regulations should
be determined on a sport by sport basis, especially where
safety is a factor - like in rugby.
Feb experts support a blanket ban on trans-gender athletes.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 22 April 2022 4:25:31 PM
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The science is established, in every sport that men compete in there is advantages over women, even the individual sports of tennis and golf. The only sport that both boys and girls can compete in equally is junior sports - prepuberty.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 22 April 2022 5:30:50 PM
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The debate is still ongoing however few experts
support a blanket ban on trans gender athletes.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 22 April 2022 6:15:11 PM
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Foxy, there's something I've noticed in a lot your posts over time. You often appear to give the impression that experts should be in charge.

However, we don't live in a technocracy but rather a representative democracy. In our system it's not up to scientific experts to decide whether something is right or wrong. It's their job to identify facts. The general public via the parliamentary system decides whether something is to be considered moral/good/right etc. It doesn't matter at all whether the experts support or don't support an action, as soon as they've presented the facts of the situation then that's their job done.

Take the trivial example raising children. On the whole the population considers it morally good/desired to raise healthy children. This moral is *not* mandated by expert opinion. The experts job here is to provide the facts to enlighten society on the expected consequences of raising healthy kids v's unhealthy ones (eg: a healthy child has greater likely hood of contributing more wealth to society when working age). But it is up to society as a whole to consider these facts and decide whether it is moral to raise healty v's non-healthy kids. These morals can then be enforced by the creation of laws.

Also the scientific experts can provide facts about how to achieve society's desired goals. Returning to the healthy kids example, they can provide food facts about what constituents a healthy diet. But it is up to society to then take these facts and create and apply programs that achieve society's goals. It's not the scientists/researchers job to forcefully deploy such programs.

So how does this apply to the case at hand here in the thread? It is up to the experts to state the facts about the advantage of being trans in sports. But it is up to society to decide whether these advantages correspond with what society considers to be fair or not.
Posted by thinkabit, Friday, 22 April 2022 9:37:55 PM
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Kudos Thinkabit.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 23 April 2022 6:23:56 AM
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Hi thinkabit,

As I stated in my posts earlier - there's not very much
information out there that's really specific to
trans athletes. And the question of their having a
sports advantage is still being debated. It's not
settled. Opinions vary. Hence my references to sports
scientists, researchers, and experts.

I did state quite clearly that the trans gender issue is
important but that protecting the women's category in
sport is also very important. They have fought long enough
to have fair competition in sport.

In the meantime, sports scientists and researchers will
continue to debate and try to advise on what the best steps
forward will be.

I trust this clarifies things for you.
I can only be held responsible for what I actually said.
Not what someone thinks I said.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 23 April 2022 10:39:43 AM
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