and remember the Greens MPs are also liars and would do anything for money.

Thanks Foxy. In political arguments those that start insulting have
already lost the argument.
I cannot know for certain that the CO2 argument is wrong but it seems
to me that it is an amazing coincidence otherwise.
There is a tutorial on Fourier Analysis on the internet and after I
read Abbots paper I went and studied it. While previously I knew what
it was but now how it works and it has convinced me that the current
modern warming is caused by the sun. Of course I could still be wrong
for other reasons.
The youngest of us might just see a halt of warming.
My regret is I won't be around to see the proof, grrr !

Fester, thanks for the link.
I am very surprised that Germany is shutting nuclear plants.
After the wind drought in Europe has caused trouble.
Germany is too small to have wind turbines. Australia is big enough
possibly provided West Aus is included.
An "expert" on nuclear last week said we would need 10,000 Km of new
transmission lines for wind & solar but none for nuclear.

As a sceptic Bazz you put up a reasoned argument for your point of view. I do think the science is in and human induced GW is now an established fact. The problem for the politician is he has to make decisions based on complex scientific advice, and that's not easy, as we have seen from the pandemic. Now the argument is not if, but how in regards to future energy provision. Renewables are still in their development stage, and fossil fuels, oil, coal and gas, still hold sway as our primary providers of energy. The question now is how we transition from fossil to renewable in a reasonable time span.

Issy, is your Shooters and Hooters Party still being financed by the foreign NRA of America, with slush money being channelled through the local SSAA. Who paid for Fat Bob's trip to Africa for the mass elephant shoot?

Paul, the argument which is correct will boil down to whether the sun
overcomes the co2 rise and controls the temperature and holds it steady for about 100 years before the decline or the co2 just pushes
it up another degree or two.

My bet is on the sun any day, pun intended.

Paul,
Your remarks indicate that it is not only Greenns MPs who mishandle the truth.
Greens MPs will also swear false oaths/ make legally binding affirmations for money.
You can’t get much lower than that.