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Police state writ large.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 7:00:49 AM
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Shadowminister,
I had written: “The number of times you get things wrong should disturb even you.” Yet you are still at it: “Meanwhile, Kristo Langker will continue to face his defamation action which he can win if he can prove his allegations on youtube.” It is Jordan Shanks who is being sued for defamation not Kristo. And to still describe Kristo's actions as screaming after watching the video is just ludicrous. Dear Armchair Critic, I'm not sure why you have posted the above here but I take your point to a degree. If this had been an illegal gathering aa a mosque for instance the Murdoch press would have been all over it. Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 8:09:44 AM
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AC,
I see your antisemitism is alive and well. The issue is not that what this Jewish family did was wrong it is that this type of behaviour occurs amongst every ethnic group probably the least in Jewish families, and when reported the ethnic grouping is not mentioned. That this single family was singled out for ethnic exposure is what makes this racist. If their Jewishness had not been mentioned their images would not need to be blurred. Maybe you could point out the Muslims reported for breaking the same laws, which apparently is far more common. Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 8:17:31 AM
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I fully agree. What does their ethnicity have to do
with their breaking the rules? It appears to deliberately select and target certain people. We need to ask not why their faces were blurred but why mention their ethnicity? Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 9:08:58 AM
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SR,
It was a typo that I subsequently corrected and you clearly missed. You also misspelt Kristo. Note that Auckland just had an attack by a Muslim extremist that could have been stopped if they had a similar law. Your claim that Kristo "addressed him in a very measured manner at his car." is also BS. However, if AVOs were acted on by the police an AVO against approaching within 50m with harsh penalties might have sufficed Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 9:42:32 AM
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Well there really does seem to be an unseemly haste to curb discussion on Kristo's case.
“NSW Police have asked a Sydney court to find YouTuber Jordan Shanks in contempt of court over a video he posted in August that airs a statement from NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro, which forms part of their case against a Friendlyjordies producer.” http://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-police-ask-court-to-find-youtuber-in-contempt-over-barilaro-video-20210908-p58pys.html The use of the law to shut down dissent in NSW should be worrying to many of us. This is what a police state looks like with law enforcement becoming an arm of politics. In Victoria contempt of court is: "any conduct that interferes with the ability of the courts to perform their role. This can include conduct inside a courtroom, such as a witness refusing to answer questions, or conduct outside a courtroom, such as publishing information about an accused person that has not been heard in court." But Barilaro is not the accused and quoting directly from a police statement shouldn't be contempt. shadowminister, Calling out to someone is not screaming at them no matter how much you try an define it as such. But happy to see a slight concession from you about an AVO. See, I knew quoting Bolt would give you permission to ease up a bit. Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 9 September 2021 1:12:52 PM
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Nobody else who broke covid restrictions gets this special treatment.
I googled 'Jews break covid restrictions' and I get so many responses I find it insulting to our country, their flouting of the rules.
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=jews+break+covid+restrictions
Yesterday Melbourne
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/07/victorian-police-monitoring-ultra-orthodox-synagogue-for-alleged-breach-of-covid-rules
3 Weeks ago in Melbourne
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/.premium-australians-outraged-after-jewish-family-defies-covid-rules-for-engagement-party-1.10125938
March - Melbourne
http://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/prayer-groups-defy-coronavirus-lockdown-restrictions-20200326-p54e3r.html
October 2020 Melbourne
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8829979/Moment-furious-Melbourne-locals-accuse-orthodox-Jews-breaking-lockdown-laws-heated-row.html
Some Jews claim it's anti-semitism to call it out.
http://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/when-covid-19-rules-are-flouted-ultra-orthodox-jews-it-ncna1243590
Others try the apologist point of view
http://theconversation.com/jewish-history-explains-why-some-ultra-orthodox-communities-defy-coronavirus-restrictions-135292
Even in Israel, they flout the rules
http://apnews.com/article/pandemics-israel-weddings-coronavirus-pandemic-jerusalem-3d878012f21b061e244ccea43ba9e292
Why are they getting special treatment when they are repeat offenders?
A bit different to say that footy players wife Nadia Bartel who broke the rules.
Their are literally dozens and dozens of videos about her.
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=nadia+bartel
Yet she did not have multiple gatherings of 70 - 100 people like these other people have.