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Preventing Violent Extremism and Radicalisation in Australia.

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"Gandhi’s whole campaign depended on provoking violence from the British" did he tell you that Issy or are you making it up? "he knew full well that the Brits would never make a martyr of him." When did he pass that gem of knowledge onto you? I think you are making it up as you go. Unless you have real evidence, and not just what you believe to be true
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 2 August 2021 8:00:40 PM
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Paul,
Read a bit about Gandhi and educate yourself.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 2 August 2021 11:47:53 PM
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There is an adage that Australian politicians, especially nationally, are generally up to a generation behind actual voters round social issues, values and concerns; legacy media too (all pale and/or skip).

Both politicians (especially neoconservatives of the right) and our legacy media reflect middle and older generations, especially regions, where most cannot empathise with immigrants, minorities etc., when told not to and subjected to constant dog whistling by same legacy media (off into crazy land with Sky AD etc.).

Be careful what you wish for as dog whistling expert Prof. Ian Haney-Lopez of Berkeley states that it 'destroys the middle class' (consensus), while former UK Tory Party co-Chair Baroness Warsi has criticised Patel, Johnson et al. for the same and stating that dog whistling can also 'destroy a nation'; obsession with creating negativity round identity to divide electorates....
Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 2 August 2021 11:58:03 PM
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But Issy old chap, you don't read unapproved literature like 'Dark Emu' you said so yourself, yet you were full of comment on it. I asked you for your recommended reading on Gandhi. I read a lot, read a Gandhi book years ago, can't recall the title, but it was a good book, I have always been a reader. Since moving to Brisbane in retirement and joining the BCL I have been privileged to have access to an excellent collection of books. I spend about 2 hours a day reading, with the 'lockdown' here now its more like four. Unfortunately I have not been able to obtain a copy of your book; 'Road Kill Recipes for the Unsuccessful Hunter' by Issy Dizzy, I'm sure it has some juicy tid-bits in it for those with a hungry appetite. Recently went to a book fair, we came away with about 20 books. The wife is reading the classic 'Black Beauty' (Its about a horse, not a black fella, so it should be okay for you).

Gandhi was a pacifists, he didn't believe in violence for violence sake, but he also didn't believe in total submissiveness. Gandhi believed in the need to defend oneself and love ones from violent aggressors, otherwise it was cowardice. Take the Vietnam War, like the Korean War before it the Vietnamese people were forced to defend themselves from an imperialist aggressor in that case firstly the French and then the Americans and their flunkies. Unfortunately under the circumstance at the time that is what they were forced to do, even though they were peace loving people.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 6:36:10 AM
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Paul,
Well, you’re right about the Koreans having to defend themselves, fortunately they had the UN and it’s members ready to help them when the aggressive North Koreans invaded their country.
Gandhi was not violent himself but he provoked British violence to aid his cause.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 8:44:54 AM
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