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I'm Entitled To My Opinion!

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You're a bit slow Foxy, but yes exactly.
I want to be able to say whatever I want, and you're only allowed to say things that I permit.
Do you think this is unfair?

- WELL ISN'T THAT WHAT YOUR SUGGESTING? -

Are you so clueless that you don't see that's exactly what you were suggesting?
You did it first.

If I want to say vaccines cause Autism, or that climate change is a load of dogpile;
Or if I want to say that pigs fly backwards to Antarctica on their annual yearly migration, who are you to say I can't?
Other people are going to call me out for what I say.

You know men can have periods, apparently.
Maybe I've got mine right now.
It's 2021, the word breastfeeding is banned because some tranny dude in a dress might feel excluded Foxy.
Milk doesn't come from a breast, apparently it comes from a chest.
Absurdity and bs is all around us, everywhere you look.

But you want to limit my right to an opinion.

Because this world is a beacon of sanity and morons might listen to other morons and that might be dangerous?
Well it's morons running the show.
What's dangerous is you taking a leap forward in helping to establish the thought police, which is sadly a VERY REAL THING in 2021.

And what should you propose my punishment be?
10 lashes in the public town square?
No, you'll fine me (steal from me) and try to take my drivers license if I don't pay.

You can't stop people from having an opinion,
So don't try to stop them from voicing it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 8:02:24 PM
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Don't double-down on stupid Foxy.

If you say something stupid, others have a right and a responsibility to tell you it's stupid.
(It's a non-violent form of correction, and you pay a price in humility by saying stupid things)

That's like level 1 stupidity.

You can either accept the level 1 stupidity and humility that goes with it, or you can 'double down on stupid'.

You don't like that others say your idea is stupid.
Sure who does, but if you wanna throw a tanty because you can't accept your idea is stupid, and you wish to push the issue and raise it to a level 2 stupidity;

That's when people don't just have a right and responsibility to say your idea is stupid;
- But that you are stupid.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 8:18:19 PM
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Unfortunately we have the Forums 'Usual Suspects' who prattle on with nonsense about man made climate change is non-existent, and the virus is nothing more than a bad cold. Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, these old blokes carry on with "stupid", as AC calls it. The same fellas probably believe the Earth is flat and the Moon is made out of green cheese, and would argue the pants off anyone who wants to disagree.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 6:44:26 AM
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Hi Paul,

Some people are more interested in proving themselves
right then in getting the best outcome. They want to
show you where you're wrong without understanding where
you're coming from. They get angry and into personal
attacks if your views don't agree with theirs.

If entitled to an opinion means entitled to have your
views treated as serious candidates for the truth, then
it's pretty clearly false and this is a distinction that
often tends to get blurred.

Not everyone has the expertise or the life experience to
form an opinion that is a serious candidate for the truth.
A vaccines-cause--autism promoter or the covid is only
the flu with no medical credentials is not a candidate for
the truth like a doctor.

We should all be able to know how to handle diverse views
and ideas. I have said that not everybody thinkgs the same.
We learn from each other. Opinions of course are always
personal relevant to our lives. Objective facts can be debated,
reasoned, tested, and revised - but opinions are not facts
and they shouldn't be mistaken as such.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 9:02:33 AM
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To all & sundry,

.

Foxy asks :

« Are we really entitled to our opinions? Can we say or think whatever we like – if being entitled shelters beliefs that should have been abandoned? »

She goes on to explain her concern :

1. « We've seen examples of how amateurs feel they're entitled to disagree with climate scientists and immunologists and have their own views "respected”. »

2. « No one can stop people from saying that vaccines cause autism, no matter how many times that claim has been disproven. »

These are valid concerns and, if I may, I should add a third one which I find particularly preoccupying, even though it does not concern us directly here in Australia – yet !

3. “Donald the Dictator’s” continued assaults on American democracy following his refusal to recognize the results of the 2020 presidential election which were officially certified by his own vice-president., Mike Pence, despite the threat of being lynched during the insurrection of the Capitol.

What is particularly disturbing is that “Donald the Dictator’s” baseless claims of mass electoral fraud and rejection of democracy are backed by the GOP and the Republican-controlled US senate as well as millions of followers throughout the country, including several violent right-wing extremist groups.

None of that augurs well for the future of democracy, not only in the US but even here in Australia and right throughout the free world. The US is a beacon of democracy. When the US catches a cold, the whole world shivers.

That said, no doubt, “Donald the Dictator” also has his unconditional followers and backers here in Australia and in every other country around the world, including Russia and possibly even China.

Everyone has a right to his or her opinion. That is a fundamental principle of democracy that merits our utmost respect.

But there are two other fundamental principles that we must also respect :

2. Citizen involvement in decision making

3. Majority rule

If we value our democracy, we must respect all three fundamental principles and ensure that everyone does.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 9:03:14 AM
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Well I always thought Paul is an extremist, his language of his opposition is extremist as he paints them as ignorant. Typical of the left who are dishonest in representing an opposing view. They become factually extreme.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 9:09:58 AM
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