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How Dangerous is Clive Palmer's Misinformation.

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I once again on Friday received a bold black and yellow 'URGENT COMMUNICATION' leaflet from the failed businessman and politician Clive Palmer. The blurb contained a spurious claim that 210 people in Australia had died following a Covid-19 vaccination, both from Pfizer and Astra Zeneca vaccines. One the surface the claim appears true. What Palmer is not telling the reader is that 209 of the 210 didn't die from the vaccine, but rather from other unrelated causes. Attempts have been made to call Palmer out on his misinformation campaign, but it seems he is still peddling garbage.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-10/coronavirus-vaccine-deaths-debunked-fact-check-clive-palmer/100197266
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 27 June 2021 6:08:17 AM
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Dear Paul,

Well that's rather disturbing.

Admittedly it will have an effect on some people
particularly the over 60s who will wait for the
Pfizer to become available. When and if.
But this sort of advertising is irresponsible
and surely must be stopped?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 27 June 2021 2:33:32 PM
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You're a bit out of date there Paul. There have now been two deaths due to the vaccines.

That means that in 2021 in Australia, twice as many people have died from the vaccine than have died from the WuFlu. Yet somehow in the minds of our 'experts' two deaths from the vaccine is nothing to fret about but one death from the WuFlu is tantamount to the end of the world.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 27 June 2021 2:40:44 PM
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You have jumped the gun Mhaze, the death of the woman in WA is still under investigation. Do you agree with Palmer's claim; "210 deaths after COVID-19 vaccine..."

If a person made a claim using the same semantics that Palmer is using, and that claim was millions of people died after eating Corn Flakes, which is "true" since Corn Flakes were first produced in 1927, that malicious fool would be in jail by now!
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 27 June 2021 4:34:19 PM
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Oh dear, Clive is out and about telling the truth again.

As the only politician I’ve voted for in many years, I hope Clive gives his fan base another opportunity to support him with a vote of confidence once again.

God bless Clive Palmer.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 27 June 2021 5:09:20 PM
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I wish that I had "failed" as well as Clive Palmer has, according to genius business analyst, 1405.

But, what he says about anything has no effect on anybody. If he is talking rubbish, so is every politician and health "expert" in Australia, and they are the ones ruining lives and the country, not Clive Palmer.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 27 June 2021 5:23:03 PM
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Paul wrote: "You have jumped the gun Mhaze"

I rarely go off early Paul - for which my wife is thankful.
The second death was Canberra. The WA women may be the third.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7292402/second-extremely-rare-new-death-linked-to-astrazeneca-vaccine/

"that malicious fool would be in jail by now!"

On what charge? Au contraire, they be laughed at and dismissed. Suggest you do the same.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 27 June 2021 5:28:53 PM
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If you count the brain-dead within the Left, you're getting into the millions ! Leaves COVID-19 in its wake !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 27 June 2021 7:31:21 PM
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Paul the garbage peddled by our fascist politicians eclipses by a country mile whatever Clive says. Our whole country has been decimated and will be going backwards for years on a total fabrication. We have been lied to about who got the virus, how they were and the outcome of the illness. Example overweight old bloke with terminal cancer catches Covid and dies and Covid is blamed. As a left winger you would think that level of dishonesty to further your nazi cause is acceptable but I disagree. I cannot wait for the truth to start coming out.
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 28 June 2021 10:48:38 AM
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I cannot wait for the truth to start coming out.
JBoyer,
Don't look to the Left, it'll never come from there !
Posted by individual, Monday, 28 June 2021 11:14:51 AM
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For the Anti-Vaxxers in our little Forum mob.

At a super spreader event, a party at West Hoxton Sydney last week, of 30 people, 24 who were NOT vaccinated, ALL contracted Covid, 6 who were FULLY vaccinated, NONE contracted Covid. Now that's one for Fat Clive. Has anyone else noticed that when Fat Clive is on the telly, his gut arrives 5 minutes before he does? A heart attack waiting to happen... me thinks.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 28 June 2021 12:54:12 PM
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Paul as usual little truth! How many of those people were actually sick at the West Hoxton party? As usual no context and remember there is only one person in hospital and no deaths unless you include the lady who died of a blood clot after taking the vaccine.
How about Paul and other sniveling cowards climb under their beds and stay there and we just get on with life? If you are under your bed you will be safe from us and we will be safe from you? Deal?
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 28 June 2021 1:07:56 PM
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Paul,

Do you just make this stuff up or do you just have sh!thouse sources.
What you say about the party is factually wrong.....got a source?
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 28 June 2021 1:25:31 PM
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For the anti-vaxx junkies Mhaze, JB suck on this.

“I can report that of the more than 30 people that were at that party, 24 of those people are now positive for Covid-19,” Brad Hazzard told reporters on Monday.

“And not one of those 24 people were vaccinated. I could also advise that six health workers who attended at that party, who were fully vaccinated, not one of those people has been infected with (the coronavirus).

Brad Hazzard NSW Heath Minister 28/06/2021.
That is what Hazzard said, I seen his press briefing this morning..

The vaccination status of the other party goers, which the total number was 30 odd, but none were positive. One person who was not a health worker was also negative, but was also vaccinated.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 28 June 2021 3:52:44 PM
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Paul you ignored my point, I understand, you are not the smartest person despite what you think.
There are no sick people despite this new sooper dooper variant being able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!
The fact is this is the Greens destroying small business and stopping all travel for us working people scum. It is good knowing sniveling cowards like Paul misses out as well or are you one of the chosen, allowed to enjoy life?
Eventually the dross supporting you will realise they have been had and we will return to a half destroyed impoverished country.
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 28 June 2021 6:39:30 PM
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- Pretty much the whole entire world is one big disinformation program -

So what's new?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 28 June 2021 11:59:09 PM
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JB, not only are you a Trumpster but a Sovereign Citizen as well. I understand it's your inalienable right to sit down to coffee and doughnuts in the mornings unmolested by authority, because of a virus you believe is nothing more than a mild case of the sniffles. Unfortunate the evidence shows it a bit more than that with millions dead from it in the past 18 months the world over (probably fake news to you). So the question for you today, you being the super brain you think you are;

What is the number of deaths in Australia you are willing to accept from Covid-19 so your inalienable right to coffee and doughnuts is not impinged?

I can make it easier for you, multiple choice (a) 1000 (b) 10,000 (c) 100,000 (d) 1,000,000 or more.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 5:52:08 AM
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Paul1405,
That depends entirely if they're hateful & racist Paul1405's or normal people !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 8:26:32 AM
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Paul,

Re the birthday party super-spreader...

Yep you were right. Your information was more up to date than mine. I'd checked the NSW health website in the morning and they were still showing 13 people with the WuFlu. But that was updated later in the day.

So kudos - you got one right.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 9:30:32 AM
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Every day about 430 people die in Australia, fact, cannot be changed, we all die. Now if you are claiming that millions have died around the world you are right but they were dying before Covid and will still die after Covid.
The numbers have been deliberately obscured everywhere! The only test used is always half wrong which is why it is used, a useless tool to aid our repression by our political masters. A test that can be run time after time and will give the positive answer eventually. Then we test sewage and say the magical super virus, the Beast is still here.
Stay under your bed little Paulie, you sniveling coward, hide under your Mum's dress and cry!
Every prediction of death was wrong by a factor of one hundred, yes all clever scientists but useless or corrupt but never queried?
Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 9:49:21 AM
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JB, that thorny old chestnut, all people die so no need to worry about the millions that have died from Covid-19, they were going to die anyway at some time in the future from something or other. What a master of logic you are. I would not surprise me if you haven't run off and got vaccinated. I've had the first jab of the AZ vaccs, no problems no side effects, so has my wife, same result, looking forward to getting the second dose and full immunisation.

Indy,

Now I'm not the one who called another Forumite, a CONCRETE JUNGLE BUNNY when he found out that person had Aboriginal heritage. You said you lived in a remote community. I hope that remote place was Siberia and the community were Polar Bears, because you would not fit in with Aboriginal people, given the RACISTS you are, calling me a CONCRETE JUNGLE BUNNY because one of my long gone relatives had Aboriginal blood and I live in a city.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 10:00:58 PM
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because one of my long gone relatives had Aboriginal blood and I live in a city.
Paul14305,
Stop making things up ! Or, is stupidity/nastyness in your DNA ? And, stop telling us you once saw an Aborigine a long time ago, you're embarrassing them !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 5:05:23 AM
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What, only two people died from the Vaccine in Australia ? Only months ago just about every death was COVID-19 related if I recall the Leftist News system correctly. Two out of tens of thousands is less than a drop in the ocean. Many more die from their own stupidity & even more because of others' stupidity.
Come up with a better solution or shut the f... up ! Bloody useless whingers !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 5:13:57 AM
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Indy,

You think its now safe to retreat to a position of denial over your racists taunt of me some time back. Your comment is true, you made it, you know you made it, then claimed you didn't know what the term "Concrete Jungle Bunny" meant. On the forum now you are safe to deny, as your originalpost is buried in the archives under a pile of your other useless pontifications. I have no need to waste my time trawling back to you racists slur. Make fun of my Aboriginal heritage all you like saying "stop telling us you once saw an Aborigine a long time ago" that was my Great Grandfather married to my Great Grandmother, and unlike possible you I know who my father is.

BTW; I don't claim to be Aboriginal, I simply state I have Aboriginal heritage. Unlike you I have nothing to hide about my past, where I came from, what I've done, who my ancestors are. I find ancestry interesting, you probably find yours confronting.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 6:48:34 AM
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Paul1405,
Stop making things up that didn't happen, it's called lying !
Yes I did say Concrete Jungle Bunny because I believed it was a humorous term. I explained to you that I had no idea that it was considered racist so, I therefore did not say anything racist, period ! You made it racist & I instantly stopped using the term.
As I am utterly opposed to racism such as you practise at every turn I will never use that as you claim South African term. I won't even call you Wati Paru a term that particular Aborigines call us Caucasians.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 7:58:14 PM
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alert to injustice in society, especially racism.
"we need to stay angry, and stay woke"
Paul1405,
I just looked up the meaning of woke (above) & it almost describes you perfectly had they added as is the case in your case "and if there isn't any racism, just invent or make it up any way you can".
Posted by individual, Thursday, 8 July 2021 5:43:01 PM
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Paul 1405 what is your real name? Why hide your real name, because you lie and make stuff up. You would be surprised would you if I hadn't got the jab? Well I have not had either jab and will avoid it whilst I can because it is not a vaccine but a treatment. The same as Hydroxy or Invermectin. Except those two old treatments are cheap and their side effects are well known.
If your jab proves to have issues who will you sue or will you just roll over and suffer.
Posted by JBowyer, Thursday, 8 July 2021 7:25:04 PM
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that person had Aboriginal heritage.
Paul1405,
I'm Aboriginal too, just not from Australia. What you are is Aborigine or rather claim to be partly.
Well, are you or aren't you ? What are you doing for the Aborigines other than embarrassing them ? Have you gone out & work in communities & have your legacy continuing to make life easier for them ?
Your claim to some racial heritage hasn't stopped me from using that bunny term, I won't use it again because you claim it is racist & the last thing I want is to be racist.
I have heard non-caucasians expressing terms which, if a white person would say them would be unacceptable even to another white person.
You're certainly not a stupid person but you are indoctrinated with so much unwarranted hatred that if don't take a good look at yourself soon, you will be regarded as stupid !
Posted by individual, Friday, 9 July 2021 6:36:40 AM
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JB, what does the "J" stand for?.... Jesus, as it seems you are all knowing on all things. Why do you want to know my name? It's Paul, dose that help you.

Indy, just as I have some Irish heritage, I don't identify as being Irish, likewise having Aboriginal heritage I don't identify as being Aboriginal. I don't know what meaning you are applying to the word Aboriginal, if its in the context of being indigenous to a particular land that's nice.

Just on something you posted earlier; You said you observed an old Aboriginal man, with a young girl on his lap, put his hand up her dress. What did you bloody do about it?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 9 July 2021 8:10:06 AM
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What did you bloody do about it?
Paul1405,
Told the copper who reckons he couldn't do anything because he was related plus I was there to work not stir $hit !
Do you really believe Legal Aid would have touched that ? Even the Civil Libertarian Boss Qld told me on the phone on a theft related matter "Sorry mate, can't help you, we're batting for the other (indigenous) team".
Posted by individual, Friday, 9 July 2021 8:58:04 AM
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I have some Irish heritage,
Paul1405,
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement either ?
Posted by individual, Friday, 9 July 2021 10:56:56 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tIB0XkY6Mg
Paul1405,
This is right up your alley !
Posted by individual, Friday, 9 July 2021 6:21:36 PM
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