There's again a focus on the GBR's condition and, as per usual, the "experts" are throwing their play money into the hat.
Thus far, they're not farmer bashing again but my guess is it won't be long.
It's not climate change that is the cause of the poor state of the reef, it's POLLUTION ! Gold mines in Papua & New Guinea, run-off from coastal settlements, WW2 wrecks releasing chemicals in the depths of the Coral Sea, sunscreen from tourists and, over-fishing !
Only last February I dived in 35 metre uw visibility on a Ribbon reef & there's no fish to be seen in the photos when 30 years ago the coral would have been obscured by schools of fish ! I dived on three different Ribbon Reefs & saw two, yes you're reading correctly (2) Coral Trout !
Do people in the South ever even think about how many fish are taken by "recreational" fishing ?
My guess is no !
We even have Magazines & TV shows promoting this insanity ! Well, they do make money & satisfy some egos !

UNESCO is on about the reef being in danger again, but that's nothing new. The average person with no connection to it doesn't take long to lose interest when people regularly cry 'wolf'. I certainly don't know who to believe, and there's diddle squat I can do anyway. The people making money out of the reef were still saying there's nothing wrong with it, and tourists are still going there, last I heard.

individual,

Thank You for this discussion.

I've only ever seen this beautiful place on film.
And its beauty appears to be breathtaking.
It would be a shame if we would lose it.

Australia has so many unbelievably
magnificent places that should be preserved. So
many unique places. Hopefully, something will be
done before it's too late.

My husband and I are still planning to become "grey
nomads" and travel around this country one day.
That's on our to do list in the future - if our
health holds out. And hopefully the reef will still be there.

cont'd ...

individual,

I've found a link from the "Great Barrier Reef Foundation."
I'm not familiar with who they are or the work that they
do however I found reading about the threats on the reef
and causes - useful. Perhaps you might find it useful as
well:

http://www.barrierreef.org/the-reef/threats

Perhaps it's because I'm getting old but I feel that the surface water inside the Barrier north of Cairns is getting cooler lately.
The greatest concern to me is the lack of fish about the reefs.

Just saw on the news that the government intends to reject the UNESCO opinion. I know nothing at all about the condition of the reef but, given all the differences of opinions of scientists , the hysteria typical of the UN and its attempted interference in Australian sovereignty,downright misinformation on climate change etc, I would probably be calling bulldust on this one.

It should come as no surprise that China is behind the UN assault on Australia's management of its own Great Barrier Reef. Susan Ley is onto the blag.

The notion that China is in some way reasonable for the listing of the GBR as endangered is a red herring and an attempt at deflection by the government. Having a story from Indy, and Indy is no a supporter of the greenies, is alarming. The state and federal governments do put millions into reef conservation, is it spent wisely, we don't know. In 2018, $444 million was given to Liberal mates running a small foundation without any tender process or consultation. Where did the money go, Sports Rorts, Reef Rorts?

We're told that the Reef is in trouble.
This is not a hunch or some alarmist rhetoric
by Green activists. It's the conclusion of the
world's most qualified coral reef experts.

If we don't increase our commitment to solve the
stress on the coral from local and global sources
pf pollution, we're told the Reef will disappear.

Already tour operators are worried about the future.
They know what losing the Reef would do to their
businesses and livelihoods. When the coral goes,
you won't have fish and without the fish and coral
you won't have the billion dollar tourism industry.

It's so sad. The Great Barrier Reef is not only a
magnificent source of marine life. It's a favourite
holiday destination, a powerful generator of jobs,
and one of the most prominent of our icons.
It's sheer size and complexity make it an essential
part of earth's biosphere.

It cannot and must not be taken for granted and the
problems ignored any longer.

Paul1405,
Not just 2018, huge sums have been provided & successfully wasted by these "experts".
Just a moment ago I listened to the CEO of GRMBPA who told the ABC reporter how they "do so much work to save the reef such as consulting with indigenous & other groups". When the reporter asked him what are they actually doing to combat the decline of the reef he didn't really know what to say & clearly stumbled through the interview.,
Blaming the Govt. is merely blaming them for what people are doing not what Govt. doesn't do !
The Govt. doesn't over fish, they don't go mad fishing, they don't throw rubbish into the water etc.
People do & it would not surprise me the least that the majority of them are Lefties. I have taken particular notice of the people on our boat ramps & yes, most do come across as red-neck Labor supporters by their rhetoric.
It's them who stuff up the environment, not Govt. How do people propose the Australian Govt. can put a stop to the outfall from the New Guinea Goldmines, or stop people in other countries to just dump their waste into the ocean currents to deposit it on our shores ? LGA runs every council in Qld so, they're responsible for the waste & pollution going directly into the GBR. ASk them how they propose to change their ways ?
I urge Australians to THINK for a change ! LGA runs every Council in QLD so, ask them how they propose to curb the outfall from their Councils into the GBR ?

China is most certainly in no way "reasonable", but it is RESPONSIBLE for its grey war against Australia, and stirring up trouble against us with the corrupt United Nations is part of that war on us. This has been ascertained by 'experts' that the Three Cranks don't know about because of their lack of reading skills and reliance on the mainstream media, their ABC, and Marxist propaganda.

There are other 'experts' on the GBR who tell us that the reef is fine. One of those scientists was so right that his Marxist-inspired university sacked him and is now before the courts for their dishonest political activism. They fudged the real reason for sacking him so that his job could not be legally restored.

When authorities start acting like Communist dictators against scientists who produce findings they don't like, we are in big trouble. We have to remember that the ill-informed, semi-literate ravings of a few hooligans on OLO do not represent most Australians.

individual,

We're told that:

Sir David Attenborough's first visit to the Reef was
in 1957. His attachment and fascination with the Reef
are hard to dismiss. However Sir David has said that the
Reef that he visited nearly 60 years ago is very different
from today.

There's more at:

http://www.theconversation.com/david-attenborough-says-the-great-barrier-reef-is-in-grave-danger-its-time-to-step-up-58204

There was a quick reminder this morning that the Chinese Communist Party, ever so worried about our reef, has wrecked reefs in the South China Sea by building military installations on them.

Has anything been heard from China's creature UNESCO about that? Of course not, just like the silence on the CCP's 30% of the world's emissions and rising, while the best managers of reefs in the world - us- have negligible emissions. The "per capita" claim is absolute crap; it's still the total emissions that count, and China is way ahead. China is way ahead in everything threatening.

As was said this morning by government politicians: "We don't take advice from other countries or bureaucratic bodies, and we certainly don't take advice from the biggest emitter in the world. They should have added, 'and the biggest threat our civilisation', also China.

..the Reef that he visited nearly 60 years ago is very different
from today.
Foxy,
I can vouch for that. I first dived the GBR off Cairns in 1973 & remember schools of fish so common on every reef, not now !
The coral are affected by pollution & the fish by over-fishing ! Both are caused by people who believe in individual rights & common responsibility instead of common rights & individual responsibility !
Indisciplined, selfish people who then blame Govt for the outcome !

Blaming China for every ill that besets the nation and the world seems to be the new mantra of the radical right. Australia joining old anachronistic powers like Britain and France and sailing around the South China Sea is nothing but warmongering. The days of a gunboat up the Yangtze, and the thrust of cold, steel to show the yellow devils whose in charge have long gone.

China presents difficult challengers for Australia and the world, but gunboat diplomacy always a fall back position of the conservative right wont work this time.

China presents difficult challengers for Australia and the world,
Not half as much as the Paul1405's of this World !
Stupidity does more harm than ill-will !

I think it was Julie Bishop who said that China
needs to be handled diplomatically but firmly
because they too are conscious of their reputation
world-wide and the Australian Government will act
and protect Australia's interests. I'm sure that
Scott Morrison and his cabinet know what to do.

Regarding our Great Barrier Reef? I'm sure that the
Government is aware of what needs to be done. There's
enough people warning about what will happen if the
problems are ignored and action is not taken.

cont'd ...

There's a culmination of factors affecting the Reef -
from disease, acidification, pollution, over-fishing,
macroalgae, and so on. I believe that James Cook University
has undertaken restoration activities that will proved
the first scientifically robust methodology for the effective
removal of macroalgae from reefs.

Marine debris and plastic pollution we're told has fast
become one of the greatest environmental challenges.

Indonesia according to scientists is a huge contributor
of plastic debris globally, largely driven by the lack
of access to a waste management infrastructure.

Now the Poms are sailing around the Black Sea, claiming right of passage over the Russians. Are we in for another Battle of Balaclava from the warmongering Poms. Bug Ridden Boris would, like ScumO', try to divert attention from his deadly Covid response at all cost.

Foxy if you will believe that acidification rubbish I have to say your research ability leaves a lot to be desired.

I have a mate in Mackay. He is the one who told me about the mass coral sporing in 1972, about 10 years before those brilliant reef scientists made their momentous discovery. Perhaps he told them too.

He started professional fishing of the Swains reefs at 15, in the late 50s, & is still doing it part time to this day. The professionals live out there, on their boats for weeks at a time. Some are pretty dumb, but others who did not get the chance for a good education to become marine scientists are every bit as smart as those who did. My mate is one of them.

He tells me that it still takes about the same time to fill his freezer as it did in the 60s. He is a pretty keen observer, & has seen it all. He saw the crown of thorns infestation come & go with no human action to effect it. He's seen seaweed infestations smother a lot of coral, then diminish. He has seen the coral beauty ebb & flow, bleaching & cyclone damage, all come & go. In 50 years a smart man who loves the reef & spends over 50% of his life living intimately with it can get to understand a lot about it.

He tells me the Swains are at near their best right now. There are sure to be other patches which are the same, & others not so good, but that 80 mile stretch of hundreds of reefs are doing just fine.

Just in passing, when I asked, he has never seen any researchers anywhere near the Swains. He reckons that at about 50 miles off shore, they are a bit far for university types to get from a good pub.

Hasbeen,

I go with what scientists and researchers tell us.
I'm not an expert on that subject but my research
indicates that there are many professional people
and non-professionals -
who are indicating problems and threats than there
are those denying it. And that of course is problematic.

Public commentators - including Andrew Bolt I'm sad to say - are regularly telling us that we unprepared and would be totally incapable in any conflict with China. At least Peter Dutton kept a stiff upper lip in an interview with Bolt yesterday and didn't throw his skirt over his head in despair. He talked about what he is doing, and what he intends to do.

With all this yabber, particularly the pessimistic sort, China doesn't need to do much spying.

One thing that has been said though is that the average Australian is not psychologically prepared for the realities of the China threat. That would be obvious to the CCP, whose leader openly told his people to "prepare for war", and who is already engaged in grey zone war with us - another thing the average Australian isn't familiar with, or even aware of, too involved in, as they are, with 'football and meat pies'. The 'Holden cars' that used to be part of the jingle have gone. Now it's Haval, Great Wall and fake MGs.

Australia's exports are many and varied. from
iron-ore and other ores, to gold, mineral fuels,
bovine meat, wheat, cereals, aluminium, wine,
to machinery including computers, electrical machinery,
optical, technical and medical apparatuses, and much, much
more.

We export to China, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, US,
to name just some.

Our yearly revenue from exports amounts to billions and
billio0ns of dollars. And all things considered we are
a rich country doing remarkable well in the general
scheme of things - all things considered.
We can only trust that this will continue with the help
of our powerful allies.

Foxy,
Not all that long ago there was a documentary on TV that showed Indonesia being a World leader in plastic recycling.
As for "sure that Scott Morrison and his cabinet know what to do.", I don't think the culprits who cause the degradation of the GBR & environment in general, will let any Govt. act in the best interest of the environment.
The Greens are last people to do anything because their livelihood would be impacted once the revenues start falling form environmentally sustainable industries.
Imagine all the fishing tackle shops, the boat yards, the TV fishing shows, the fishing magazines etc. who make their living from this degradation ?
No, they'd fight ANY Govt. tooth & nail to protect the environment !

individual,

Australian Traveller gives a listing of at least
seven landscapes that Australians have saved
for their grandkids due to various community
campaigns - and succeeded with enough pressure
on the governments.

They list the following:

The Franklin River in Tasmania.
Koongarra in the Northern Territory.
Arkaroola in South Australia.
Hattah Lakes in Victoria.
Mary River in Queensland.
James Price Point in Western Australia.
Mt Everard, Harts Range, and Fishers Ridge in NT.

I'm sure that The Great Barrier Reef will be added to
the list.

I'm sure that The Great Barrier Reef will be added to the list.
Foxy,
They would if only they could, alas ! It's only a small part Australia can play in this. Our coastal towns should prevent outfall as much as possible but then we still have the World's pollution that whirls within the Ocean currents that follow continental shelfs which is totally out of Australia's control. That's why the reefs far out in the Pacific are still healthy in comparison to the GBR & other coastal reefs.
I don't give a damn what any "experts" say but in my view the Gold mines in New Guinea contribute massively to the degradation of the GBR & they mix with the currents picking up pollution in Asian Countries. Just look at the pristine reefs of Raj Ampat. Why are they so ? They're not along major ocean current lines that's why ! They don't appear to be affected by the Freeport Mine yet they're very close. Ok Tedi outfalls go straght into Torres sStrait thence down the GBR. The former Gold Mine on Horn Island appears to have contributed to the smothering of coral reefs. The reefs of Torres Strait & northern NPA were still vibrant in 1978. A couple of decades later after the Horn Island Mine closed, there was no more hard coral in the area. All smothered in sediment from mud stirred up by trawlers & deep draft shipping. Farther south around Cairns the Tourists' sunscreen lotions did the trick !

Sorry Foxy but I have to say your blind acceptance of the bulldust you are fed by authority tells us a lot about your opinions & attitudes.

On one occasion I took most of the staff of AIMS, The Great Barrier Marine Park Authority, & James Cook Marine biology department, & some of their families, 180 people all told out to the Facility I installed at Hardy Reef. I was utterly amazed at the lack of knowledge, & the naivety displayed by many of the senior people.

It is a pity you weren't there, it would have opened even your eyes.

The issue on the GBR is the burgeoning anthroparchy- too many people in the world.

Individual,

Thank You for giving me more information on this subject.
As I've said previously - I'm no expert on the subject
so I appreciate learning more on the subject.

Hasbeen,

Thanks to you as well. I can only go by my limited
knowledge. Unfortunately I haven't your knowledge or
expertise on these issues. But of course I respect what
you have to say and share.

Hmmm, I am surprised that no one has mentione Prof Rid.
He was in the High Court with his case yesterday.
I suspect that his contention is spot on.
As Jennifer Maronasy states, the research on the reef bleaching etc
by the James Cook Univerity was done from an aircraft 150 metres above the reef.
She maintains that the picture is altogether different under the water.
When experts are fighting like with elephants, stand clear !

Dear Bazz,

Here's two links for you:

http://www.australiancoralreefsociety.org/wp-content/uploads/Ridd-questionable-claims-statement.pdf

And -

http://www.desmog.com/peter-ridd/

The status of the GBR is not as dire as many of QU's doomsday "experts" have predicted. As Peter Ridd showed, much of the research is fudged to give politically expedient results.

Shadow Minister,

Read the links I've cited as to who is doing the fudging
and why.

Lack of integrity always has been & always will be a trait of Academia !

Foxy,

As noted by the trial judge, at no time in any of the QU hearings or at the trial did anyone assert that Ridd's claims were incorrect. The action against Ridd was entirely based on his speaking out on the issues he found.

Shadow Minister,

Stop saying nonsense. His trial was about his
his breaking the university's code of conduct.
About his behaviour. Not his science. His science
has been vastly criticised as being flawed by
coral reef scientists and if you had bothered to
read the links I cited you would know why.

Foxy Peter Ridd was sacked because his exposure of the little game of research grant promoting with false claims about the reef. It had nothing to do with bad behavior, unless you think exposing fraud at academic level is bad behavior.

You obviously continue to refuse to look at the simple evidence shown by Jennifer Marohasy. It appears you would rather live in ignorance than have your ideology challenged by having some of your heroes proven to be lying frauds.

I did you the courtesy of following your references, & was not surprised to find they offered nothing but assertions, with not a single piece of evidence offered. This of course is because all the evidence is in agreement with Ridd's case, because his statements are all true.

I don't know if you have ever seen just what your esteemed "scientists" actually do in Townsville. I say in Townsville, because they spend stuff all time anywhere near the reef. The closest most of them ever get to coral, or fish is the ones they play with in very large fish tanks ashore in Townsville. That is other than the odd holiday at Lizard Island, or on trips to the actual reef such as I took them on. Of course some of them believe flying over it is research.

Let us know when you have examined the actual evidence I refereed you to, your response will be interesting. It will burst a few bubbles, which may be painful for you, but truth is better than propaganda any day.

These circles within Public Institutions do not tolerate people who remind them of lack of integrity.
Peter Ridd did it & see what happened ?

Hasbeen,

The man has been totally discredited and
the only people supporting him are those
whose views are equally as blinkered and flawed
as his are. My links clearly demonstrate Ridd to be a
fraudulent academic who cherry picks and massages the
evidence to fit his extremist views. He gets his funding from
fossil fuel and cane grower money and right wing climate
change denialist groups like the IPA, the Cato Inst. the AEF,
and the Galileo movement - they all give credence to his views.

The Murdoch media, right wing shock jocks (Alan Jones, Andrew
Bolt), support him. I'm surprised that you do. The man is a
fraud.

Foxy, sticking your neck out ?
Consider you might have fallen into that old trap of disbelieving
someone because of where their funds come from.
Take care.

Yes Bazz. Apparently swindling money out of the tax payer by falsifying results to gain research grants is fine. Taking money from productive business folk, or by donation from private interested parties is wrong.

Hasbeen,
According to the Left, anything to do with just the slightest degree of integrity is wrong !

Foxy,

Pascoe has been completely discredited when two researchers painstakingly pointed out his deliberate misrepresentations of the evidence. So far NO ONE has done the same for Ridd.

All you have offered is polemics to rubbish his name and not one jot of actual counter-evidence. All we have from you is unprincipled hypocrisy.

Shadow Minister,

Give it a rest.

cont'd ...

Ridd has been totally discredited by coral reef scientists
and marine biologists. The two links I've cited clearly
demonstrate where his loyalties lie. As scientists have
pointed out the man cherry picks and massages the evidence
to fit his extremist views also his funding and support
comes from the fossil fuel and cane grower money and from
climate change denialist groups like the IPA, the Cato
Institute, the AEF, the Galileo movement - all of whom
give credence to his views.

The Murdoch media and right-wing shock jocks support him.

Yet you keep on ranting that nothing of substance has
been done to discredit the man? Okkaay. The only conclusion
we can come to is that your views are equally as blinkered
and flawed as his. And as I said - give it a rest.
You have no credibility whatsoever!

Ridd has been totally discredited by coral reef scientists
and marine biologists.
Foxy,
No-one's ever totally right whenever assumptions are made. It simply appears that Ridd was more right & paid for it. From my own experiences I am more inclined to believe him rather than the multitudes of Academic Experts' who have their snouts in the public trough & who don't want to miss out on the next feeding session !
Ridd & indeed all those with some integrity are seen as foes by the experts. I have actually gotten nervous nods of agreement whilst mentioning this to a Uni Chancellor some time ago.

individual,

Even people who are bought and paid for by the fossil fuel
and cane grower money?

Give it up fellers. Foxy has now proven she is not interested in true evidence, when it will destroy her argument.

She is now twisting & turning to come up with an answer to avoid looking at that evidence, so she can maintain her attitude

It is a sorry sight, but one I guess common to all left/green who know their argument is false, but don't want to face the fact.

Hasbeen,

I don't think that you really believe what you just said.

However, lets wait and see what the Supreme Court decides.

Foxy,

The Australian coral reef society is an interest group and does no actual research itself.

Shadow Minister,

Quoting from the Web:

" The Australian Coral Reef Society (ACRS) plays a
key role by promoting scientific research on
Australian coral reefs. Because it is NOT aligned
to any vested interests the society's views are
sought by government policy makers, conservationists,
and ALL those interested in coral reefs who need
impartial and expert advice. "

Unlike Peter Ridd who is funded by the fossil fuel
and cane sugar money.

Foxy,

Thanks for confirming that The Australian Coral Reef Society is not a scientific body. As a "non-aligned body" it is a vested interest in itself. Publishing alarmist findings boosts its interests.

Shadow Minister,

The Australian Coral Reef Society is not supported by
vested interests unlike the fossil fuel money that
supports Peter Ridd and the society
publishes impartial and expert findings.
That's why government policy makers and conservationists
rely on them. They are a highly respected and reputable
body. If you choose not to believe that - that's up to
you. There's nothing more to say.

Australian Coral Reef Society is not supported by
vested interests unlike the fossil fuel money
Foxy,
what about taxpayer money ?
I support any move that protects the reef & the environment in general. The problem is that the Academics want it all for themselves paid for by Us !

The coral reef society is just that of a non-scientific society. At best it is a club that anyone can join and its commentary carries little weight.

a club that anyone can join
shadowminister,
Join & support yes but only a handful get to enjoy the reef at the supporters generosity !
Remember they've been allowed to create pink zones only they can enter & enjoy under the guise of Research !

Shadow Minister and individual,

You gentlemen leave me speechless.

Your ignorance knows no bounds.

http://www.australiancoralreefsociety.org/about/

http://www.australiancoralreefsociety.org/about/history/

Foxy,
Why do you believe everything that comes from Academics ? Do you really believe they have the degree of integrity they make you believe they have ?
Can't you accept that they're no different to anyone else who wants to protect a good lurk at everyone else's expense ?
Yes, of course there are some real scholars but they have by-passed mere Academics & have become valuable members of society why, even I know a several.

Fellers Foxy has refused to look at solid evidence, instead spouting propaganda to justify avoiding having to see the truth.

She is even wrong with the propaganda, in claiming Peter Ridd was supported by fossil fuel & cane farmers money. Rid was of course a university professor, supported by the same system as those she favors, at least before his whistle blowing cost him his job.

He deserves huge credit for showing up the research grant money hunting false reporting coming out of James Cook in particular & AIMS to a lessor extent. It appears it is only whistle blowers showing up some supposed fault of the right are to be protected if the left have anything to do with things. Someone showing the rotten core of our lefty universities are to be attacked unmercifully.

individual,

what makes you think that I believe everything
that comes from academics?

Certainly not. The case of Peter Ridd is a perfect
example of my non-belief.

However, I do certainly see the significant role
that academics can play in society by developing
knowledge, providing analysis, and informing
public debate - thereby having an impact in the
community. This is particularly important in
areas where there is a great deal of misinformation.

pseudoscience is everywhere. Bold statements in
supposed scientific jargon which gives the
false impression that they're supported by
laboratory research and hard facts.

For example: magnetic wristbands improve your
sporting performance. Carbs make you fat and
just about everything gives you cancer.

Hasbeen,

The fossil fuel and cane growers are funding
Ridd's legal fees. And there's much more -
on the web and in the links I gave.
You're looking silly with your denials.

Foxy,
How could you or anyone possibly know what is REALLY going on. By reading ? I get my views & opinion mostly from personal observation & let me tell you from what I have witnessed I'd rather trust an uneducated person than an indoctrinated one !

Foxy,

The majority of Ridd's funding comes from his gofundme account. It seems that many Australians are keen to prevent the erosion of freedom of speech.

Shadow Minister,

Utter nonsense.

Go do your research on the GoFundMe account and who
contributed to it.

Foxy,

Clearly, you haven't bothered to look. There are a handful of donations of > $3000 but the vast majority comes from hundreds of small donations.

The total is > $760 000 and it is now closed.

Shadow Minister,

Clearly you haven't read the links I gave.

Ridd's GoFundMe campaign was founded by the IPA.

And he's publicly thanked them.

Sorry Foxy, but while you only read lefty propaganda sites, & refuse to even look at sites offering genuine factual evidence, you will always be misinformed.

Hasbeen,

I will give that the consideration it deserves.

I will give that the consideration it deserves.
Foxy,
Something tells me you're beyond that. It really is a waste of your time to try & convince those who actually look & think for themselves.
Think how these "experts" would write about environmental issues were their funding to rely on industry !
It's like those insane 'recreational' fishers condemning everyone else for the decline of fish stock.

Foxy,

Your ignorance knows no bounds. From the polemic link you provided:

"Ridd named Marohasy directly while thanking donors to his GoFundMe campaign that raised over $260,000 to cover his legal fees fighting against JCU:"

There is no mention that the GoFundMe campaign was started by the IPA.

Instead of digging up left whinge innuendo try actually reading the information on the GoFundMe website where the full list of donors is available.

Meanwhile, the water is getting too cold on the GBR to swim without a wetsuit !

The sun is just rising over the outer GBR but it's still pretty cold at the moment.

Shadow Minister,

This entire Ridd case is not about Ridd's "freedom"
to say what he wants. It's about the breach of the
University's code of conduct - whether you like the
code or not.

And if you don't like the links I cited - there's plenty
more on the web that you can Google.

BTW: Ridd thanked the IPA for helping with the organisation
of his GoFundMe campaign which raised it's first
$99.322 in just 49 hours.

I will match my "ignorance" with yours any day of the week.

individual,

I'm glad to hear that the sun is shining so brightly
in your world. Long may that continue.

whether you like the code or not.
Foxy,
Yes and, wether the code is right or wrong also !

"This entire Ridd case is not about Ridd's "freedom"
to say what he wants. It's about the breach of the
University's code of conduct - whether you like the
code or not." Foxy.

Foxy. You must mean no university employee is allowed to expose straight lying by other staff. That is the only possible result if people like Ridd must remain quiet.

Please advise if you have yet to look at the evidence of lying I directed you to, or are you still protecting your position by claiming any funding of the researcher renders that research invalid, to avoid the truth?

So, anyone have any info how much of the $444 Mills has been used to make the GBR healthier & where ? Which sections of the GBR are now better than before the funding ?
Lat.-Long. will suffice, thanks !

Looks like Scientists don't read OLO so perhaps anyone here knows one of them that could give us an answer ?

Foxy,

The code was engineered to counter the free speech guarantee in the employment charter. i.e. you can say what you want as long as everyone else agrees. That's not free speech.

This is the real story.

"In 2019, the Australian Institute of Marine Science issued its annual long-term monitoring report on the state of the Great Barrier Reef, entitled Mixed Bill of Health for the Reef, reflecting the fact that while some parts of the reef were still in very poor condition in the aftermath of the 2016 and 2017 mass bleaching events, some showed good signs of recovery and others – such as many of the southern reefs – remained in excellent condition.

Predictably, this report was translated by many commentators into two diametrically opposed and equally false messages: one, that the reef was near death; and the other, that the reef was absolutely fine, and as good as it had ever been. These extreme views were typically bolstered by anecdotes of personal visits to specific parts of the reef, confirming the polar opposite interpretations, and the exhortation to “see for yourself”.

But for an ecosystem as huge and majestic as the GBR – the whole system includes over 3000 individual reefs along 2300km of Queensland’s coastline – visiting a single reef can never give a complete picture. That is why every year since 1985, AIMS scientists visit reefs across the length and breadth of the GBR, conducting detailed surveys of coral health and fish abundance. Every year we spend more than 200 days at sea with our two state-of-the-art ocean-going research vessels, collecting hundreds of thousands of observations, and adding to our store of literally millions of images, to provide the most complete and enduring monitoring record of any major reef system in the world. As a result, our annual long-term monitoring program reports (and the detailed explanatory analysis they contain) are the definitive source of information on the state of health of the GBR."

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"The Great Barrier Reef is showing signs of recovery with some of the best coral coverage recorded in years, according to a survey of the natural wonder conducted by the commonwealth’s chief independent marine science agency.

The Australian Institute of Marine Science assessment – which found “minimal impact” from last year’s coral bleaching and increases in hard coral across 85 per cent of the reefs surveyed year on year – comes as UNESCO’s World Heritage Committee meets this week to consider whether the site should be formally declared “in danger”.

The results of the AIMS annual monitoring program, which has been monitoring the condition of the reef since 1985, will be used by Environment Minister Sussan Ley in her final push to lobby committee members against ratifying the draft ruling on Friday."