mhaze,

"Of course when I (mhaze) tried to raise the genocide of the Uighurs, Paul, who hasn't seen a communist regime he's not ready to cover up for, was anxious to talk about anything else."

Another one of your lies, you can't help yourself can you. Try backing up your lies with evidence. The genocide being committed by the Chinese state against the Uyghur people is deplorable and not enough action is being taken by the rest of the world to stop what is murder and genocide.

mhaze,

What you have to say no longer interests me.

Have a nice day.

We always reach this point with Foxy. When she realises that her claims are invalid she declares she's no longer interested in discussion.

hi Foxy,

Thanks for the link; "For centuries, First Nations peoples have been seeking the truth about colonisation." The general thrust from those opposed to reconciliation is to deny or mitigate the past truths. They see admitting truth as a weakness which for them would open the flood gates to unjustified claims. Its only through recognition of the truth that we can move on as a united people.

On the question of Aboriginality, in my case I have a small amount of aboriginal blood, my Great Grandfather on my mothers side was part aboriginal, my mother steams from a line which includes my Great Great Grandmother a Mauritian slave transported to NSW as a convict at a very early age, she had a very colourful life indeed. I have never claimed "aboriginality" and as far as I am aware only one first cousin has done so, still living in the area of "the tribe". My point being many folk who have aboriginal heritage don't ever claim it, because they don't identify with it, as I told Cuz.

BTW something of interest Foxy, Te Aroha has got news from back home that the Northland Council is trying to confiscate large tracks of Maori land under the guise that they are "the best land managers from a conservation point of view". The Maori people see it as yet another land grab by Pakeha, there has been many many such land grabs in the past, another fight to be had. The Maori have lost most of them.

Foxy, Pauliar,

Genocide is an emotive word that is frequently thrown around where it clearly does not apply. As in other indigenous communities, the vast majority of violence and killings is not from the white "colonisers" but from their own people primarily in the form of domestic violence. The thousands of missing women mostly are not dead but have run away from abusive domestic arrangements.

This is the inconvenient "truth" about colonialisation.

Dear Paul,

We know that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander
people's prior existence and survival on this land for
tens of thousands of years is not acknowledged in the
constitution. We know that this also resulted in
historic social exclusion and economic disadvantage.
We know about the massacres (Tasmania for one) and
so on.

I'm not surprised by the grab for Maori land in
New Zealand. It's par for the course with Indigenous
people.

I think that recognition in the Constitution would
provide the basis for an important shift in policy and
the community's acceptance of our Indigenous people's
contribution to our national life. It would enable us
to go beyond our discomfort about our shared historic
and move towards a situation that most Australians
would welcome. Which is that we're a country that
can be proud of being home to one of the oldest
living cultures in the world where our Indigenous
people have an equal chance for a long and productive
life.

This would be good for all Australians.

I believe that for a person to be considered an
Aboriginal - they must be of Aboriginal descent,
consider themselves as Aboriginal, and be accepted
as Aboriginal by the Aboriginal community in which
they live.

Not many people fit into all these three categories.
Despite the misinformation being spun to negate
someone's Aboriginality.

mhaze,

I, like many others stop responding to
posters such as yourself because we find the discussion
pointless. It's hard to discuss anything with someone
who simply wants to argue and
who's convinced that only they are right and who
does not respect the views of others and stoops to
calling people "clueless" and so on.

It gets repetitive and boring. However, if I am so
"clueless" then I'm sure I shan't be missed and you
can always find "kindred spirits" to congratulate you
on your wisdom.