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Gas Project - Is It Hot Air?
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Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 2:17:04 PM
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The following link may be of some interest.
It was a Media Release from the PM on the 17th Sept. 2020: http://www.pm.gov.au/media/investment-new-energy-technologies Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 2:47:12 PM
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The Govt. can only propose with what's available now ! There's no point inargueing about green technology until it is AVAILABLE.
It is not as yet nor is there any other alternative. If there was, the money mongers would have it in place already, they wouldn't sit back & let all those billions slip by them ! It's the alternative solution crowd that's pushing (Socialists) to waste other peoples' money so they can fuel their arguments which never stand up to reality anyway. To them I say, show us a system that works & we the voters & Govt. will buy it off you ! Ubtil then, stop bludging off the rest of us & try to get a real job ! Posted by individual, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 4:18:07 PM
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Got this from an email with a picture of hundreds of cars in a yard.
This is a boneyard near Paris, France with hundreds of electric powered cars. Mind you these are only cars used by the City of Paris and not personal vehicles. All of these have the same issue,.... the battery storage cells have given out and need replaced. Why not just replace them you ask? Well two reasons. First the battery storage cells cost almost double what the vehicle cost new, and second no landfill or disposals will allow the batteries to be disposed of there. So these green fairy tale electric cars are all sitting in vacant lots while their batteries drain toxins into the ground Posted by individual, Thursday, 27 May 2021 7:56:31 AM
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Hi Foxy,
I read Morrison's "Media Release", and on face value it would appear Australia has nothing to worry about, if you can believe the government. I am not opposed to GAS-FIRED POWER per se, being an interim measure as we transition away from coal to renewables. Given the governments lack of a cohesive energy policy, gas may well be necessary. This particular project has many people baffled, both from an economic and also from an environmental viewpoint. Economically it don't stack up, private investment wont touch it, as for it power generation necessity that has also been questioned by experts in the field. It may turn out to be a very expensive white elephant. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 27 May 2021 10:06:07 AM
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individual,
You've been lied to. See http://www.snopes.com/fact-check/electric-cars-abandoned-france/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ Bazz, I'll respond to your post later. Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 27 May 2021 10:42:19 AM
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It is because they cannot afford to do it on the scale needed.
"How about we get the muggines to install batteries ?"
They will be very thankful for the pittance we will give them for the
power we pull out of their batteries.
The scheme solves the major problem with the big battery solution.
WHEN and FROM WHERE do you recharge the big enough batteries ?
A battery to replace the output of a 1 Gigawatt station has to be
16 x 1 Gigwatt/hr capacity.
There is nothing anywhere near that in the world. (Except Hydro)
From costs I have seen it would cost ONE TRILLION Dollars. (roughly)
The 16 comes from a cold still winter night or day 4pm to 8am when
you then have a flat battery to recharge in 8 hours, provided the
next day is sunny and windy provided the country shuts down for recharging.
People talk endlessly about batteries but noone ever quizzes them
with; BUT WHEN WILL YOU RECHARGE THEM ?