Having been a telephone counsellor to assist persons in crisis situations, I know people whose lives have not been destroyed by a criminal act.

One young nurse raped by six footballers. who had to flee to America to avoid contact with these thugs. I met her happily married to a professor of engineering with three children. Another woman now in her sixties who shared with me she had been raped by her cousin at fifteen, married with children. Another raped by her father happily married. Another young woman serving in a hospital in Africa raped by Muslim Malisha and fell pregnant had to return to Australia as she chose to have her child and get on with the rest of her life.

That some women become emotionally obsessed with a past event to the point of suicide is not part of the rape. If permanent physical injury is caused or violence can it be considered part of the rape or that the rapist was not known to the victim, that the action has links beyond the act itself

Dear Josephus,

Why do you lot continually do this? Confirming my point through your subsequent post makes this boring.

I put to you that: Implicit in this statement from you "I've met several women raped as teenagers who got on with life to become happily married." is that the perpetrators should be able to get away with it.

You once again delivered a post which did not discuss nor refer to any sanctions whatsoever to be directed at the perpetrators. In your mind it is just about these women getting over it and moving on, even if it entails them having to move overseas.

I have little doubt some women you have talked about will likely have long term trauma from what had happened to them. For you to say "That some women become emotionally obsessed with a past event to the point of suicide is not part of the rape." is just ludicrous.

"The symptoms of RTS and post-traumatic stress syndrome overlap. As might be expected, a person who has been raped will generally experience high levels of distress immediately afterward. These feelings may subside over time for some people; however, individually each syndrome can have long devastating effects on rape victims and some victims will continue to experience some form of psychological distress for months or years. It has also been found that rape survivors are at high risk for developing substance use disorders, major depression, generalized anxiety disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and eating disorders." Wikipedia

The high suicide rate of those who were raped as youngsters, particularly in religious settings is a proven fact. For you to try and dismiss it is quite frankly evil.

Thanks for that Steele, spot on.

Proud Boy Jose'

Given your bigoted, racists attitudes, one can only imagine what you would tell a rape victim. I wouldn't have you counsel my deaf, dumb and blind hamster! Was your counselling work associated with some loopy, fundo, church mob? You can't see it, but you mitigate the serious action of the perpetrator by deflecting the act to be judged by the condition of the victim. If the victim is "getting on with it" then you mitigate the act of the perpetrator. There is no difference to the seriousness of the rape, whether after the event, the victim appears to be mentally unwell, or as you put it the victim appears normal and "getting on with it". The perpetrator should gain nothing based on the afterwards mental condition of the victim.

Paul if you had been bashed up by a bully as school, that has left you with injuries and fears years later should the bully be held accountable that you might come across him in the future, and he be ever held accountable for those fears and permanent scars. I have! but I have learned to get on with life and not hold grudges forever against the person who assaulted you. I still have the physical scars 70 years later of that event.