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Just another toxic legacy left by Trump
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Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 22 March 2021 10:31:19 AM
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Hi Steelie,
Poor America. The news is ever so depressing. It's even sadder that from the outset Trump's allies in the Senate made sure they had no intention of convicting him. In a floor speech after the vote, Senator Mitch McConnell said Trump's conduct preceding the assault on the Capital amounted to a " disgraceful dereliction of duty" by the former president, who he held " practically, and morally responsible for provoking events of the day." But McConnell concluded that the Senate was never meant to serve as a " moral tribunal," and suggested instead that Trump could still face criminal prosecution. McConnell stated clearly that " President Trump is still liable for everything he did while in office." McConnell said " He didn't get away with anything yet." At a news conference after the vote the House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi denounced " cowardly" the Republicans who voted to spare Trump. Trump is the first President to be impeached twice. And amazingly he still has a vice-like hold on the Republican Party. It's mind boggling the number of dead in the US due to the Corona virus. As well as Trump's presiding over dozens of ethical scandals, egregious procedural lapses, startling indiscretions - yet his legacy lives on and the trampling of norms barely registers with so many. Poor Biden. He's got an enormous job ahead of him. Made all the more difficult with Trump still continuing to bay at the heels. We can only trust that the man will disappear in a swamp of criminal charges and civil suits or go to jail. History will eventually judge. In the meantime - the toxic legacy remains. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 March 2021 12:13:16 PM
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Another toxic legacy left by Trump. What a load of garbage, proving once again that the Trump Derangement System is an incurable condition. Two extremist Leftists on OLO banging on about the departed foreign president on the same day.
A busybody non-American has no business being 'concerned' about Americans not wanting to be vaccinated, or about what his own countrymen do. If the vaccination works, why would people who choose to get it care whether or not other people get it or don't get it! Mind your own business. Posted by ttbn, Monday, 22 March 2021 12:52:16 PM
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SR,
The Republican party is not calling for people not to vaccinate, neither is Trump. I seriously doubt the accuracy of the poll. Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 22 March 2021 1:50:24 PM
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If the vaccine does not stop people getting a mild dose of the Covid virus, will it stop those who get a mild dose from infecting others?
If it doesn't eliminate the transfer of the virus, what the hell is the point of killing some people with it? Until such questions are fully answered only an idiot would volunteer for the experiment. This is pretty much confirmed by looking at those here in favor of it. Had yours yet SR? Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 22 March 2021 2:13:08 PM
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SteeleRedux,
You've obviously suffered severe side effects long before COVID-19 ! Posted by individual, Monday, 22 March 2021 2:23:39 PM
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Shadowminister,
Trump was a late convert to vaccines having claimed they caused autism in babies. But that isn't the point. Biden is scoring over 60% approval rating on how he is handling the virus with Trump's last figures on this measurement sitting at 32%. This is getting up republican voters noses and now their singular contrarianism has them conflating the vaccine with Biden. Republican males are the largest group of vaccine adverse in the poll. This is very much a Trump legacy. Dear Hasbeen, Do catch up you poor thing. The primary impact of a vaccine is to prevent the most serious aspects of it with far less hospital admissions. To even ask “If it doesn't eliminate the transfer of the virus, what the hell is the point of killing some people with it?” My god, this is crap I would expect from baby boomers but aren't you old enough to have grown up around polio? Don't be an idiot. Dear individual, A snippy little remark is all you have to contribute here? Well par for the course from you isn't it. Dear Foxy, Indeed Trump's toxicity is wide ranging and seemingly long lasting. That we has so many forum members jump aboard the band wagon shouldn't have surprised but it is still depressing as you say. Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 22 March 2021 3:56:45 PM
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Maybe those who don't want the vaccine have been listening to VP * **Harris.....
"she said during a vice presidential debate last year that she would take a vaccine recommended by doctors and other health practitioners, but if Donald Trump tells us that we should take it, I’m not taking it.” NB Trump is saying take it. But of course, the usual useful idiots will have forgotten what Harris said because...reasons. BTW did anyone notice that following the Asian sex workers killings, Kamala sudden started being called Asian again - Asian for a week probably then she'll revert to being black. She's whatever race is in the news this week. If Boko Haram kidnap any school girls next week she'll suddenly become Nigerian for a week. * Its only a matter of time before VP Harris become POTUS taking over from Joe "What am I Doing Here" Biden... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c08m3ad60l0 It'll happen whenever the Dems and the media (but I repeat myself) decide that they can no longer hide Peking Joe's dementia. Funny meme doing the rounds... Most revealing picture of 1989... http://wallpapertag.com/wallpaper/full/a/d/f/590488-download-free-tank-man-wallpaper-2000x1341-for-desktop.jpg Most revealing picture of 2021... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/biden-president-fall-rail.jpg Posted by mhaze, Monday, 22 March 2021 4:09:35 PM
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Good Evening Steele,
Talking about Trump's toxic legacy. The Canberra Times tells us that "In the Trumpian madness you see how a psychosis can overcome a people. It is an illness from which recovery is not instant or easy. There is no vaccine. " Steve Evans writing for the Canberra Times says that " Joe Biden and the Democrats need to be magnanimous in victory. They need to put their partisanship aside and address the most important task, the repair of American democracy and civic society. Both are broken and that is a tragedy for all of us who love America and what is once stood for." Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 March 2021 5:02:54 PM
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Both are broken and that is a tragedy for all of us
who love America and what is once stood for." Foxy, And, who started breaking it over the past 50 years ? Leftist Democracy, just as it is breaking the World now ! Posted by individual, Monday, 22 March 2021 6:35:12 PM
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Hi Ibdividual,
Is that the best you can do. Come on - Seriously? Do your research. There are plenty of reputable websites on the web about Trump's toxic legacy. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 22 March 2021 6:47:52 PM
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Is that the best you can do.
Come on - Seriously? Foxy, Seriously, is that the best you can muster ? Posted by individual, Monday, 22 March 2021 8:39:36 PM
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Biden is scoring over 60% approval rating
Steele Redux, 60 % of those who are trying to get across the Trump hurdle near Mexico you mean ? My bet is that the likes of you will be the first to point the finger at the next Republican President to do something about all those Latin refugees in America. My advise to the do-gooders is -go to Central America & help prevent the people from becoming refugees in the first place. The way things are now, they're on track of spreading COVID-19 even more ! Posted by individual, Monday, 22 March 2021 8:47:01 PM
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Foxy,
If they think the riot on Capitol Hill in Washington was something then they should take a gander at what is happening on our Capital Hill . . . . . . . Hubba Hubba! Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 22 March 2021 8:48:20 PM
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While these Leftists are continuing to obsess over a man one would have thought they would be glad to see the back of, the Biden Democrats are importing future votes for themselves over the border.
The press has been banned from the Mexican border: they have to get their information from Mexico, where illegals by have been interviewed expressing their gratitude to Biden. The poor fools don't realise that Biden just wants their cheap labour and votes. Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 8:53:22 AM
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While on the issue of Trump Derangement Syndrome, I seem to recall plenty of its suffers here whining about all the kids in detention on the Southern Border during the Trump presidency. It was according to the suffers proof of how evil Trump was.
So I'm sure that these same folk will be highly distressed at the images today of kids locked up by the Biden regime living in appalling conditions and exposed to the Chinese Virus.... http://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1373979606378819586 I can't wait to hear Foxy, SR, Paul et al telling us how it proves how evil Biden is although I suspect we'll find out that they've learned the meaning of nuance. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 12:26:43 PM
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Biden will be America's Whitlam !
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 8:27:22 PM
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The usual, the obvious, the nauseating, the believers of all things left.
All the usual suspects are here to be counted and give their two cents worth. ttbn, and others made it quite clear, and still the left leaning pions carry on as if they are an authority on EVERYTHING. Foxy, SR, Paul, unless you people are part of the American Govt, and have FIRST HAND knowledge which will stand up in court, you're all just bull and bluster, commenting for the sake of winning the "LOOK AT MOI", awards. Anyone bagging Trump is an uneducated, un-informed, fool who believes they know what is going on and feel the need to grandstand. Now that might be fine for all the fools, and not just those who agree with you but all those who actually have to take in the rubbish you all spew out, only to realise that you don't actually know what you are all trying to arrogantly promote as if you are fully informed about which you are simply and absolutely NOT! Foxy, continues to plagerise unabated. SR, YOU are one of the most knowledgeable; about spouting crap. And Paul, well he is noticeably absent, so we can hedge a little respect for Paul, because it might be possible that he, at least, realises that if he is not fully conversant about a topic, he abstains from making a fool of himself, unlike others. For the record AND your information, take a "mommy" look at the numbers, and you will find that Trump did far more for America than the anti-Trump brigade, media and the plebs, sheeple with NO conceivable and obvious ability to actually know the truth when it is even explained by the simplest of minds. Those who vilify and denigrate Trump, are much worse than him. So until anyone of you actually take an un-biased look behind the cover, and actually read the books/truth, you are all full of it, and actually quite unworthy of interactions if you are not prepared to speak the truth instead of second hand, bias, unconfirmed third hand actual untruth's! Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 10:19:38 PM
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Astor-Zeneka, Pfizer, Johnson and Johnson etc.
What do they think I'm trying to decide whether I want Macca's Hungry Jacks or KFC? I'll pass, and make my dose available for the rest of you guinea pigs. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 6:02:21 PM
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Ep 74.A: Power to redesign every species! Lederberg / Southam / Breeze / HIV / Fauci / Virotherapy
http://youtu.be/Km556-1_Ky4 Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 6:04:44 PM
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Dear mhaze,
Really? Posting Twitter links to Project Veritas? The bloke is commonly known as a video hoax artist. But I'm a little unclear where you stand on this. You appear to be decrying it on one hand and supporting the efforts of your President on the other. Which is it? Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 25 March 2021 1:18:59 PM
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SR, firstly, YOU are NOT a person of authority or first hand information of material facts about the video and it's veracity.
Secondly, YOU are in no position or one of any authority to comment on those reporting this story. Thirdly, well, to put it simply, YOU are in NO position to comment on anything to do with this video. All anyone can derive from it is that the story has some cred, how much cred, we don't know, but it does at least stir and awaken some people to question and investigate further. Hoping there are still some actual caring, well meaning people out there. Now as for the point of children in custody; well I feel we all need to step back and take a deep breath, and consider ALL the facts, not just the ones that help each individuals cause/s. We cannot overlook the fact that Biden and his administration and policies are seriously unworkable and in fact un-wanted. The Dems have NO idea about fairness and reason, and so it is that Biden has unleashed a ship load of pain on, not only the American people but also it's allies and other partner/trading nations. He is a moron and no amount of abuse or any forms of attacks on him or his person, can ever compare to just how much of a lying, filthy useless traitor, he has proven and demonstrated himself to be. Trump was in fact a saint/child compared to this mongrel of a cheating, vile, liar. As for the children in detention, well Biden wanted the job of POTUS, and all that it entails, well these border controls and their failures are now his responsibility, yet I don't see the media giving him anywhere near the amount of pain and shtick they gave Trump. That fact alone is enough to demonstrate that Trump was right all along. The Dems are in fact, as some have called them, The Democraps! Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 25 March 2021 7:43:56 PM
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When US stats show that those who've taken the Vac live longer-better then Republican anti-vacs (Ravs)
then Ravs will swallow their Trump Denial Syndrome and take the Vac. Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 25 March 2021 11:05:31 PM
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"When US stats show that those who've taken the Vac live longer-better then Republican anti-vacs (Ravs)then Ravs will swallow their Trump Denial Syndrome and take the Vac."
No I don't think they will. They're not likely to take the vaccine any more than they would wear the mask. Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 26 March 2021 12:30:55 AM
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“Although nearly 41 million Americans are now fully vaccinated against COVID-19, one segment of the population remains steadfast in its opposition to getting the vaccine: Republicans. Recent polls, including our latest PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist poll, shows at least 41 percent of Republicans don't plan to get vaccinated. “
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-41-percent-of-republicans-dont-plan-to-get-the-covid-vaccine
It seems “being against vaccines has been seen now as a badge or as a sign of loyalty to the Republican Party”.
Thankfully this doesn't seem to have taken hold even within the more toxic circles of rightwing politics in Australia but we don't know what the future brings on that score.
We are now seeing headlines like this: “Conservative George W. Bush Is Now Too Liberal for His Party”. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/03/george-w-bush-is-too-liberal-for-the-republican-party.html
It is illustrative of how much of a swing to the right Trump took wide sections of the US and just how many drank the koolaid. Repair will take some time.