James... glad you did some original research... I didn't even know they had a web site till now.

Belly.. 3 'WIVES' ? mate.. not sure what you mean there ... there was a case of a bloke who was fooling around with 3 women who was disciplined and then gained a high media profile.

I'm not defending everything about them, I'm defending their right to a fair go.

If, for example, I state "A woman is worth only half that of a man in court in Islamic societies" that is not a defamatory comment it is a proven fact and reality. Just this morning on CNN one of the senior nobel prize winning Iranian Judges stated that... If I say "Islam allows stoning a woman to death for adultery" another Iranian woman politician said "If Islamic law proscribes a specific punishment for a specific vice, I'll defend it even though the whole world is against me" her words...not mine. To say as much is giving them a fair go, because it is factual. But if we said things which are NOT true about them, it would be defamatory.

The EB have some habits I find uncomfortable. The issue of the 'handing over the books' is not one I know about, and I'd take serious issue with that,.... so if that is 'Church Policy' then by all means report it, that also is a 'fair go'. If it is just an over zealous local church going further than they should, it needs to be reported as such and not used to tar the whole movement with the same brush.

BELLY.. mate... I've not said you 'hate' them or Howard ? where do you get that from ? I just checked my posts..can't see me saying that.

That remark was not aimed at you BD is was a rebuttal of a rant often aimed at me or other up the thread.
It comes each time some one says anything against Howard.
We should remember however John Howard once held this country in his hands, he knew what people wanted.
At that time only fools did not know this.
It is no longer the case he has lost his followers and the term ex Liberal voter is common.
John Howard will see that as clearly as I do post election.
BD this is no church, no follower of your Christ I am amazed you did not watch the very in depth doco about the dread full damage this CULT has inflicted on good honest people.
You quote your God very often this is no product of his.
Howard knows this his desperation to be elected drives him nothing else.

Calm down Belly. It should not be a sackable offence to meet someone. If it was then Kevin Rudd should have been sacked over the Burke affair.
The EB may be a cult but that does not mean that those who meet them support or approve of them. I know members of the EB, indeed have just returned from speaking to one. Does that make me a bad person? Are all members of the EB bad people or are they, as some might see it, misguided and unfortunate people? Remember the EB is their life and their family and breaking away takes an enormous amount of courage when it means losing your family. Could you do it?
May I remind you that they are not the only people in the community who do not vote but still seek support from their elected members?
There are other groups who do not vote for reasons of religion, others who are not on the electoral roll and some who do not bother even though they are on the electoral roll.
There is no need for hysteria over this group. There are plenty of other groups and individuals out there which are just as dangerous but have the support of all sides of politics.

John Howard can visit Hitler's grave for all i care...he's dead in the water.

A question remains unanswered - why bother to meet with somebody who does not vote and can't influence others to vote for you or for your party?
It's a bit like having meetings with non-resident tourists passing through the country.