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Australian War Crimes

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Cossomby,

You are a bigger fool than most people have always thought you were. The CCP murders many of its own people on a regular basis; they don't care about foreign enemies, civilian or other.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 20 November 2020 10:06:02 PM
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Paul,

Remind me of your evidence that Australian soldiers committed war crimes in Korea, as I recall you had none.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 November 2020 8:27:39 AM
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I have to give credit to Foxy on this occasion for wisely indicating that she "doesn't know what should be done".

War is hell son...

When the SAS are sent in they shoot to kill. Spies and elite forces have similar secretive roles that all countries use. If discovered they probably face execution in their operational domain. They are often the ones that protect the domain of peace. A violent peace- sort of like anothers comment on the Intolerant Tolerance of Popper- another paradox of the human condition.

OTOH Trotsky appears to believe that equality being more important than freedom- and being incompatible with it- it is necessary to ruthlessly and eternally suppress free thought- through the mechanism of "Permanent Revolution". (Big Tech- Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple, and to perhaps a lesser extent Microsoft- appears to be doing this very effectively). One effective communist tactic see book "Low Level Conflict" is to stir up resentment against the authorities. For example when the military uses check points to control terrorism- communists cause civilian deaths at checkpoints to discredit the military- making the region ungovernable. The public needs to help the authorities to root out the insurgents at these times.

Many conflicts have operated in the context of cold war West vs Communist global geo-politics.

The context of the War In Afghanistan is interesting.

1. The link of the Taliban (the students) with Al-Qaeda (the cause) and international terrorism (and probably international communism). Ironic that Al-Qaeda was formed originally to fight Communism when the Afghani peoples were being wiped out by Russian Communism in the 80's.

2. The link with the oil and the US strategy paper on the pipeline by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitze of the 80's.

The underlying problem that is causing the conflict in the middle east with the west is world energy- oil - if the west doesn't control the energy other international powers control it and use it in a way that harms the world.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 21 November 2020 9:47:50 AM
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Sadly world stability is based on control of strategic resources.

It is difficult to find a replacement for oil and any replacement will have effects on the stability of the world- often in unexpected ways.

It's amusing The Age stating the bleeding obvious- "SAS has a culture of secrecy"- no... The Age editors must be tactical geniuses- maybe they should go out front on military missions.

Sadly the SAS - as they will always be - have been dragged into a global political situation.

Iraq under Hussein played both sides of this global conflict as did Vietnam- I'm sure all players do this. It may be important to remember when seeking the best deal for ourselves that at some level the stability of the world requires cooperation- even if it is to stay on our own side of the fence.

The battle against the robots has already begun in the form of the fight against Communism
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 21 November 2020 9:49:09 AM
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Some further information on the military concept of "Low Intensity Conflict"...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-intensity_conflict#Three-phase_Maoist_model

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-intensity_conflict#Low-intensity_counter_operations_or_counter-guerrilla_warfare
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 21 November 2020 10:02:54 AM
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Issy, just for you, I wouldn't do it for anyone else. I read the book.

"In Scorched Earth, Black Snow: Britain and Australia in the Korean War, 1950, Second-Lieutenant Owen Light, who was an officer with the Argylls in the conflict, describes ordering his men to kill wounded North Korean soldiers lying among the dead on the battlefield because they allegedly had live hand-grenades concealed beneath their bodies."

Full story Issy; Could have a paywall.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/australian-and-british-soldiers-have-been-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-against-civilians-and-soldiers-in-korean/news-story/2dd36f3faf7275bc3f846ac8e4a50dbd

I'm sure Afghanistan isn't unique, could find the same for the Boar War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam etc etc. One thing, if you were an Australian soldier over the last 120 year you get about a bit to do your killing, Turks, Afghans, Dutch, Vietnamese, Koreans, Arabs, etc etc, we don't discriminate, do we. Did we bump off any Mexicans, if not, why not?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 November 2020 3:06:13 PM
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