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The Minimum Age of Criminal Responsibility.

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We can all talk about the results of the existing system, and state the obvious. Big Nana said;

"This is what currently happens. Kids get warning after warning after warning. They think court is a big joke.(THERE IS SOMETHING MISSING HERE, THE MAGIC YEARS BEFORE 18, SEE BELOW) Then they turn 18 , commit another crime , usually a big one, and end up in prison, screaming about racism and discrimination." (Why are white kids screaming about racism and discrimination, Aboriginals have not been mentioned by me, but then there is your mind set.)

"On an average night in the June quarter 2018, 980 young people were in youth detention. The vast majority (90%) were male, and most (84%) were aged 1017. This equates to a rate of 3.5 young people aged 1017 per 10,000."

Big N went on to say; "THE ONLY WAY to prevent this is to remove kids from dysfunctional families at a young age, before they become too damaged." (My capitals) I question that, sure it is often necessary, but we need to address the root causes of dysfunctional families, and although the majority come from such families, not all.

Thanks Joe, "I agree (and I agree) - if parents are so abusive and/or neglectful to the point where obviously their kids are going to become destroyed human beings (and destroy other human beings, mainly women, in the process) in a few short years, then the children should be removed immediately, placed with caring foster-parents (Black or otherwise, it doesn't matter: seriously, no, it doesn't matter) until the parents can show conclusively that they can look after them properly. Conclusively, not just some BS story about how much they love their 'babies'." Why is seen only as a black problem? There are other dysfunctional groups in society as well.

Joe, I prefer the family solution where possible, that's not always available to a satisfactory point, but caring foster-parents, and they are hard to find, is the next best alternative. But we must not give up on the systemic problems that are the root cause.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 5:42:42 PM
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(Why are white kids screaming about racism and discrimination,
Paul1405,
Maybe because they're copping racism & discrimination ? I have witnessed that on a number of occasions first hand. It's not uncommon when they're in the minority !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 6:47:04 PM
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"Nobody, Black or white, on cultural grounds or otherwise, has the right to abuse or neglect their kids.

What are you going to do when the 14yo kid says this:
"Do you know how easy it would be for me to go get my gun and shoot you?"

And what do you do when the police come and are looking for that firearm that's supposedly in his possession?
- And can't find it?

- The bad you may have known, are like angels to the bad of today.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 7:13:09 PM
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Isn't it absurd when a 6 year old gets admired for playing a piano etc. & is regarded as so way above others yet when a 14 year old commits a crime he's regarded (not by sane people I might add) as not fully understanding of his actions ?
If the culprits don't really know what they're doing is wrong, why then do they run away & then lie about it all ?
Juvenile detention with internet access, gym facilities, excellent food etc. is not the answer , juvenile detention with discipline & work & basic food will help change their ways !
Parents too need to be allowed to discipline their wayward kids. Any sociologist or other do-gooders should help compensate victims.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 30 July 2020 9:59:06 AM
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Trying to educate or control people is like trying to herd cats.
Trying to think up another of an already long list of ideas and attempts at fixing an un-fixable and broken system is like the definition of insane, which is, someone doing the same thing again and again, expecting a different result.
I ask, what if we were allowed to discipline our children, and I mean by the only method which has shown some semblance of success in the past, AND, at the same time killing any vestiges of PC.
What I'm suggesting will not be popular with this new breed of air headed do-gooders, too gutless to entertain anything they perceive as uncomfortable.
Yes I mean getting physical!
The more recalcitrant and anti-social, the harder the physicality of the punishment.
Those who retaliate even more, will end up as career criminals, they will learn nothing and their arrogance and obstinance will eventually land them in jail, and if so, so be it.
The rest can be turned and set on a path of social acceptance.
Imagine for a moment, if we were all allowed to carry guns, concealed or otherwise.
Those criminals with no respect for life would be no different than those of today.
Those who are of the general criminal element/level will reconsider their criminal ways, knowing they can be KILLED at a moments notice, and for very little reason.
Now I know it sounds like a radical, or worse idea, I for one as an oldie would feel a lot safer, and the crims would think twice about agitating an oldie in future.
Yes, yes, I know the idea is ridiculous, BUT, is it?
This was once the norm and the kind of environment I grew in as well as my peers, and it's done me no harm, not that I was a career criminal.
The Catholic school system also advocated corporal punishment, once upon a time.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 30 July 2020 11:39:15 AM
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ALTRAV,
You & I stated something factual because the do-gooders aren't hitting back ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 1 August 2020 8:23:20 AM
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