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Posted by loudmouth2, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 1:54:15 PM
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Foxy,
I'm glad you said "...... we should debate the issues." because I have concerns that Reconciliation does not go far enough and that Aboriginals will not gain anything meaningful from it in the long run. I think the politicians, bureaucrats and business people are really saying to them "Here, take the Reconciliation. But we're keeping the land." I guess I'm still that 'boring and one-eyed" person who can see that there are other things at play that are hidden under the veil of some purported great Australian oneness and Kumbaya infused camaraderie. I don't see anybody debating 'Reconciliation or Treaty' for instance. Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 2:02:48 PM
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Dear Joe,
Right back at you. Why don't you as a former researcher with your own blog - investigate - instead of consistently being a nay sayer. I'll give you just two references to start as to why finding massacres in the Australian archaeological record is so challenging: http://www.archaeologyonthefrontier.com/2019/07/26/needles-in-haystacks-2/ And - Journal article - "Looking for the proverbial needle? The archaeology of Australian colonial frontier massacres," Archaeology in Oceania. V. 46. No 3, October 2011 pp. 105 - 117. The article is by M. Lister and Lynley Wallis. Available at your State Library. Off you go. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 3:58:05 PM
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Dear Joe,
Here's more "prattling" for you: http://abc.net.au/news/2018-09-25/archaeologists-discover-hundreds-of-native-mounted-police-camps/10183402 Read it if you really care. Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 4:08:01 PM
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Dearest Foxy,
I meant actual investigations, not excuses for why there aren't any. But i suppose, if archaeologists can't find any traces of fence-lines, villages, roads, storage pits, etc., we can't expect them to find conclusive massacre sites anywhere. So we'll all just have to believe without question. I loved archaeology (or at least the idea of it) when I was in school, but put away childish dreams when I had to make a living. I'm a bit too old now. But most universities have archaeology departments, and maybe they need someone to do some of the paperwork :) Love, Joe Posted by loudmouth2, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 5:59:37 PM
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Foxy & LOUDmouth,
The sorts of investigations you are discussing go well beyond archaeology. This is a big and sensitive area that requires all sorts of people with specialist credentials in oral history, forensic anthropology, environmental history and archaeology, just to name a few. This is a large scope that would have to be carried out over years. If you are interested in what is involved I would delve into the studies done elsewhere eg sites like Mesoamerica. It's not the sort of thing one sits down at a computer and punches out over night. IT'S NOT JOURNALISM. Which is what I think you two are looking at. Posted by Mr Opinion, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 6:49:42 PM
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Well, investigate as well as merely prattling about it all.
For example, when will there ever be just one archaeological investigation of a suspected massacre site ?
When will just one person look up their archived file to see if, how and when they were 'stolen' ? Why aren't thousands taking their files to Slater & Gordon ? Surely they need the money.
Yes, perhaps we can only reconcile once the full truth is on the table.
Joe