yes, it is sad that the West chose to rely on an authoritarian nations for economic growth, led by big companies investing there over the years.

But I don't think the word can afford this trend to continue forever.

The West, and the rest, need to find ways to counter China's rise. It is in the interest of all non-Chinese nations to say enough is enough and put constraints on its rise.

Trump was right to take on China, although I am not so sure about the rest of his policy mix.

We're not in a trade war with China.

China is just showing us that the real decisions on the Australian economy are now made behind the closed doors of the Chinese Communist Party.

Australia's politicians, bureaucrats and business people have been selling us out to China over the past 30 years in order to keep the economy afloat and now we have very little control over determining our own future.

The Chinese Communist Party has injected so much Chinese state controlled capital and populated the country with so many of its own citizens that we now look and act Chinese. One trip to Sydney will demonstrate that.

And look at what Andrew Forrest did the other day, which sent the obvious message as to who is really running the country.

All we need now is for the LNP to promote Gladys Liu to Prime Minister.

'Funny how Britain, France, Spain, Italy etc are keeping their heads down, and not trying to play the hero, like little old Australia is.'

yes and funny Paul how all the regressives want little old Australia to destroy its economy in leading the way with the gw fantasy.

runner,

It seems that countries like Sweden, Costa Rica, Nicaragua,
Scotland, Germany, Uruguay, Denmark, Chjna, Morocco,
Kenya, and even the US are all trying to eliminate
fossil fuels from electricity generation.

The US solar industry now employs more people than coal and
nuclear combined.

Poor "regressives."

seen your such a great researcher Foxy, how many new coal fired power stations have India and China built over the last 2 years?

You can only be in a war if you're prepared to fight. There's precious little information that we are prepared to fight.

I wrote in previous threads that we (Australia) are now in serious economic straights. A combination of the foolish lockdown and the changed world-wide economic conditions portend bad tidings for Australia.

China is currently trying to use its economic weight to intimidate the world into ignoring its bastardry in regards to the virus and their part in hiding its nature and extent. Europe has already bent the knee - but that is to be expected.

But the question is just how much economic clout China will have going forward. Clearly the US is determined to extract revenge for what the CCP did to its economy. Even a milquetoast like Biden will be forced to take on China, despite what it'll do to his son's and supporters kick-backs....errr I mean income.

As business moves out of China either back home or to less threatening nations like Vietnam and India, China's clout will wane. That'll be a dangerous time internationally, but that's for another thread.

So even if we do bow to China's threats, the fact is that they won't be using the same level of resources as their own economy contracts and therefore we will still suffer.

We simply need to understand that the next decade or two aren't going to be all that lucky for the lucky country. We will need to rebuild some manufacturing.

But we will also need to build new international partnerships. We ditched Taiwan long ago. That must be reversed. We have gone out of our way to piss of the Indians. That has to stop yesterday.

We need to economically rejoin the anglo-sphere asap.

Even then, it'll be a generation before we even get back to where we were 6 months ago.