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Pell's Acquittal

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Shadow, I speak of the finding of a Royal Commission as they pertain to your pin up boy Pell. You dismiss that Royal Commission as a kangaroo court. Pell's previous legal history before the courts is of little concern to me. Is Pell a kiddy fiddler himself, there are many accusations that are yet to be proven.

Why not comment on the finding of the Royal Commission as they relate to Pell. Could it be you are an apologist after all, as in the context of being one who defends the indefensible, that being paedophilia in the Catholic church.

BTW why attack the Greens?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 10 May 2020 5:30:06 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

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You wrote :

« Thanks for your stats, it shows that 65% of child sexual abuse occurred outside the catholic church. »

That’s correct, Shadow Minister, but while only 35% occurred inside the Catholic Church, it was the religious institution in which the Royal Commission registered the largest number of cases of child sexual abuse.

Perhaps even more significantly, the Commission found that 58% of all reported sexual abuse took place in religious institutions globally.

What that means, of course, is that non-religious institutions are more trustworthy than religious institutions.

Many families were probably already aware of this and the Commission’s report largely substantiates it by providing relevant, and I might add, highly dismaying, facts and figures.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 10 May 2020 9:50:26 AM
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Paul,

Could you be an apologist for the pedophilia that occurs outside the catholic church incl your poster boy Karel Solomon. That the offending could not have continued without the robust complicity of the Victorian police and other authorities was also pointed out by the RC, yet what do I hear from you about prosecuting these people? Crickets.

As an atheist I am no fan of the Catholic Church and its policies, however, neither am I a fan of lynch mobs and scapegoating. If anyone has a genuine case against Pell, I have no problem with throwing him in jail, but what I see is the Victorian police happily forgetting their role in the tragedies and committing one injustice to cover up another.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 11 May 2020 5:36:10 AM
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My thoughts exactly:

"The operation of the Victorian justice system should face a full review in the wake of the ­botched proceedings against Cardinal George Pell, according to the Coalition.

Opposition legal affairs spokesman Edward O’Donohue said he had been inundated with complaints from Pell supporters, opponents, victim groups and people shocked at the “unedifying ordeal’’.

He said while the unanimous High Court decision was “clearly an embarrassment’’ for the ­majority on the Victorian Court of Appeal, he was not reflecting on it or decisions by the other courts. But he was concerned about key aspects of the Pell case and whether the justice system in Victoria had done its job.

Mr O’Donohue said the decis­ion to proceed with the investig­ation and lay charges without speaking to or taking statements from all potential witnesses also was a problem.

He also questioned why ­Director of Public Prosecutions Kerri Judd QC had “ignored’’ Cardinal Pell’s application for discontinuance to abandon the criminal proceedings, given the seven-member High Court bench’s subsequent ­decision.

“There are clearly many questions that need to be ­answered about the decisions made throughout this process,’’ he said in a latter to Victorian ­Attorney-General Jill Hennessy.

“And it is critical for our democracy and the rule of law that Victorians have faith in the transparency and operations of the Victorian justice system.

“While there has been enorm­ous publicity, debate and analysis of the Pell matter, most criminal proceedings do not ­receive the same level of public interest and scrutiny, nor do the parties have the resources ­required to take their matter to the High Court.

“Therefore, the broader question from this matter is this: are the reported/potential failures that have occurred in Pell symptomatic of a system that at times is failing both defendants and complainants?’’

Ms Hennessy said the independence of the courts was funda­mental to the integrity of the justice system.

“The testing of evidence in criminal proceedings and the correction of decisions on appeal are fundamental features of an effective justice system that is delivering­ fair, transparent and sound outcomes,’’ she said."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 10:35:23 AM
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Shadow, who is this Karl Solomon, some Catholic confessor of yours. Did you while away the hours as a youth with Fr Solomon in the goodly priests presbytery, sipping altar wine together, I suspect so. You've mentioned him before, must be some dear friend of yours.

How about commenting on Pell, and the Royal Commission findings. I'm not interested about Pell's kiddy fiddling court cases, and Vic police, or the local polys down there, what they did or didn't do. You seem to be so engrossed in Pell, as an apologist you can't find fault in the grubby cardinal.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 10:13:35 PM
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Paul,

We have discussed Karel Solomon before, he was your party's nominee for council and was subsequently charged for child sex offenses, a man that you have defended and shunned only after he was caught. Did you spend time with the pedogreen Karel comparing happy snaps?

As this was a thread based on Pell's acquittal, I did not focus on the opinion of the RC commissioner which in the case against Pell is completely irrelevant. That you accept this commissioner's opinion as gospel whilst rubbishing the TURC commissioner's findings based on real evidence as just more of your hypocritical BS.

If there evidence of Pell obstructing justice, then as the Pedogreen Karl he should be charged.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 14 May 2020 5:02:45 AM
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