Foxy I suggest you start your own religion. Personally I left the Catholic church a long time ago for various reasons. It seems somewhat arrogant to want everything your own way. I am not going to join the Jehovah's witness and then tell them how they should run the show. No one is keeping people attached to the Catholic church by force as long as I know (at least not anymore). Personally I find the feminisation of the state school system disgusting and sending out all the wrong message. I chose to take my kids out. Most institutions that have pushed the feminist dogmas have either had to dumb entry standards down, lower physical requirements and have had the organisation adopt horribly woke causes. So many people who hate the Catholics wanting to tell them how to run their affairs.

Josephus,

"Mr Opinion I am recommending you to George Pell's defense barrister Robert Richter, that they take you to the Defamation court. You will not let up in your constant intention to defame."

Don't bother....he'd get off on the grounds of insanity.

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Another interesting fact that I hadn't come across previously was that the complainant had a history of psychological problems that required treatment. The court forbade the defence from advising the jury of that. Whatismore, the court also forbade the defence from even looking into the nature of those psychological problems.

But somehow people still argue that the system is weighted against the accuser. Go figure!

Hi Foxy, so glad you are back, and contributing with your much needed positive remarks. Stick around, take it easy, let it all be water off a ducks back. Remember the Armadillo Principle.

Your degree of optimism shown above is encouraging, only if the Catholic Church would bend itself to a position of understanding of what is a sorry indictment of the whole Church, its clergy and its hierarchy. The Catholic Church needs to realise it response to paedophilia within has not just been inadequate, it has been criminal. The Churches methods of enlistment of clergy, and then given those peoples circumstance they are placed in by the Church, what is expected from those recruits when placed in a position of power and dominance in the community is not human, but unreasonable in the extreme. I am pessimistic about change, I see no substantive change within the organisation which would indicate that a new direction will be taken. Lots of platitudes, but little real resolve from the conservative old guard within for any meaningful change, and that includes the Pope himself.

One thing that the Pell saga tells us, is don't upset the homosexual lobby.

Is Mise

'One thing that the Pell saga tells us, is don't upset the homosexual lobby.'

I think that is what upset the Victorian Judicial system more than any child abuse. I mean they sanction murdering babies if they are covered by skin. Inconvenient truth.

Hi Paul,

Thank You for your comments of encouragement.

As we know the Pell case had a set of unique and complex
circumstances.

Even overseas newspapers pointed out that -
This case has been a model of opaque
operations, starting with judges who dismissed related
allegations early on, followed by gag orders preventing
media coverage and a refusal to release evidence.
The courts exhibited a penchant for secrecy and insular
decision making that resembled the Catholic church's
flawed and damaging response to sexual abuse within its
ranks.

Anyway, what the future holds is unclear.

I'm hoping for reforms from my church. I'm hoping that
the church will confront the difficulties and the
opportunities that it now faces. It's now up to the Vatican
on what it does next.

I agree with what Banjo Paterson has written in his posts.
He's put it so well on what needs to now be done.

It's been an interesting discussion.

But as Joe (Loudmouth) stated - perhaps it is time to
move on.

Take care and stay safe.