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Pell's Acquittal

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SR, because the time frame to bring charges does not indicate the victim's real injury. Because it was a emotional public conviction against the Catholic Church led by the ABC and others. I do not have much sympathy for the Catholic Church and its barbaric history, but in this case it was a public trial that convicted him.
Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 11 April 2020 12:43:00 PM
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Hi Foxy,

You observe that

"Essentially the high court's decision does not mean that Cardinal Pell did not perpetrate the abhorrent acts of which he was convicted earlier."

Although the obverse seems to have been their unanimous view: as you write,

'It means instead that the available evidence could not prove the crimes "beyond reasonable doubt.""

Yes, indeed, Foxy: in a system where innocence is presumed and guilt has to be proven, 'beyond reasonable doubt' means just that, that the accused is innocent right up to the point when there is no longer any 'reasonable doubt'.

So an accused is either innocent, or proven guilty 'beyond reasonable doubt.' There is no in-between, no matter how dreadful the crime might have been. Not enough evidence means the person has to be found 'not guilty', or 'innocent'. So it has been with Pell, by the unanimous verdict of the highest court in the land. Let's move on.

Love,

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Saturday, 11 April 2020 1:10:28 PM
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ttbn,

The difference is that those you claim as "vicious snapping and snarling of his hate-filled enemies" are not liars.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 11 April 2020 1:15:06 PM
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Pell may have spent 13 months in gaol but at least he would have been dressed for the occasion, which I think would bring great pleasure to any dissenting judge
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 11 April 2020 1:18:49 PM
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Mr. O,

Not sure why I grant you an honorific when you continue to snarl, 'Pell'. My manners are better than yours, I suppose, having been brought up in a more polite and dignified era than you were. Raised in a cave by wolves, were you?

As for lying: you have just told the obvious lie that you and your motley crew don't lie. It doesn't get more dishonest than that.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 11 April 2020 1:34:02 PM
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As Christians celebrating Easter some of us may
forget that Jews around the world are celebrating
Passover (8th April - 16th April 2020).

The movie "The Ten Commandments" will be screening
this evening on Ch. 92 at 7.00 (the classic film
with Charlton Heston, Yul Brynner, et al).

The timing is ironic. Passover and Easter
are about miraculous deliverance. But this year we all
will be making it in the midst of coronavirus, a
pandemic whose end is nowhere in sight.

We shall all be forced to celebrate apart. Many of us
have been shaped by our traditions and by memories of
generations sitting around the table sharing
those traditions.

However, there are lessons we can learn here. Lessons
such as compassion. This experience can teach us
to expand our concern for others who are vulnerable.
Especially towards those without loved ones,

The challenge during this difficult time is to
genuinely care and show our concern for others.
So, let's open our hearts, even if we cannot open our
doors.

Stay safe.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 11 April 2020 4:07:38 PM
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