still blaming Trump for the Chinese virus Paul or just another one of you idiotic conspiracy theories you Greens spread from hatred.

Nah runner, the covid-19 virus wasn't created by the Chinese, or the Yanks, according to your belief it was CREATED BY YOUR CHRISTIAN GOD. According to you, your God creates all life, including all killer viruses. Can you explain that one? Or will you conveniently side step an answer, like you do about that mysterious church of yours.

Aidan,

Its patently absurd to claim that the standard of living today doesn't affect that of tomorrow. Each generation bequeaths an economy and its living standards to the next who can build on it (or sometimes not... http://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f13844d5b3f14bc28c7513629dd9776f ).

If economic decisions made now cause lower standards of living than would otherwise be the case, those lower standards are passed down the generations. Borrowing today makes borrowing tomorrow both more difficult and more expensive. A weaker currency means imports are more expensive and that isn't a one-time, its a permanent hit. A declining currency makes overseas lenders nervous and demanding higher interest to offset the risk, and that's a permanent hit.

Economic decisions (and errors) made today are passed down. We don't start each new year with a clean slate. Each generation doesn't start with a clean slate. Each new year carries the burdens of the last. Each new generation carries the burden of the last.

It might be possible to argue that the burdens are offset by the benefits IF the borrowing was done create assets that are also passed down the generations. But that would be hard to maintain given where the borrowing is being spent these days.

Certainly could easily argue Paul that giving man free will is a mistake. Especially when you see how evil he has become and then shaking his puny fist towards His Maker and thinking nothing of murdering millions of the most innocent and even celebrating it. On top of that celebrating perversion, immorality, earth worshipping etc etc. Man's heart is certainly wicked.

So you admit lying about the US being responsible for this virus. I suppose when you whole life is based upon a lie then one more can't hurt eh!

You do know that the mercy of the One you hate is available to even the haters. I would much rather be in His hands than god deniers who just dig deeper.

And thanks for acknowledging that he is 'BY YOUR CHRISTIAN GOD'. In actual fact He is the Creator of all and His mercies are available to all. I sincerely hope that even His deniers and haters lay down their pride and receive His mercy.

Sounding rather "sermonistic" there runner.

A basic difference between you and I, is you believe man is basically evil, and needs to be constantly punished in some way for that wickedness. I on the other hand believe mankind is basically good, with a few acceptations. One thing I find interesting about the Christian god, is his change of character over the past few hundred years. Once seen as very much a hateful and vengeful god, somehow the Christian god morphed into what he is today, a loving and forgiving god. Why is that runner, the change in god's personality, why did that come about?

Paul
'A basic difference between you and I, is you believe man is basically evil, and needs to be constantly punished in some way for that wickedness'.

Actually Paul I believe man is corrupted (born into sin). And no I would much prefer mercy to people rather than being punished for their 'wickedness' I am just opposed to wickedness being promoted and celebrated at a State or Federal level. Once celebrated then people are gagged. In our previous much more Christian society people received far less punishment than any Marxist regime dishes out for people not in on the group think. If not for God's mercy we would all of been consumed long ago. Name a church, political organisation, sports organisation, charity that has been free from corruption?

You write

' One thing I find interesting about the Christian god, is his change of character over the past few hundred years.'

God's character has never changed. He is loving, kind, holy, righteous and merciful. Never in history has there been such a loving act as Christs crucifixion to take away the sins of the world (that includes you and me).

Man is cut off from a relationship with God in his fallen state. Man stores up God's wrath by his mockery and wicked acts. In Christ man is restored to a relationship to God and receives mercy. I wish this for all men.