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The newspaper record doesn't lie

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somehow I think journalist in the past had much more integrity than those today who have been sold a narrative (and usually a false one). Same probably goes for science, where once things needed to be tested and reproduced in order to be proved. Now many believe a sixteen year old girl can predict the future and is an expert on previous selfish generations. The education system has dumbed down the average human.
Posted by runner, Friday, 17 January 2020 12:21:18 PM
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Ah, the integrity of the past!
Runner, you must be wearing rose-tinted glasses. Here are the first two usages of the term 'fake news' in Australian newspapers: 1855 and 1864.

Sydney Morning Herald 30 April 1855

Paris, Sunday, January 21st, 6 p.m.-

Count de Montmirail, an habitue of the Bourse, was sentenced yesterday by the Court of Correctional Police to six months’ imprisonment and 500 francs fine, for circulating fake news and calumnies against the Emperor.

South Australian Weekly Chronicle 27 August 1864

After all the rumors, contradictions, and counteraffirmations on the subject of the alleged discovery of Leichhardt's remains, the whole story proves to be a discreditable hoax. In Paris such audacious trifling with the public would be punished with fine and imprisonment, and although we have no desire to see French press law introduced here, we think it right that some expression of public indignation should follow such an unprincipled piece of trickery. Not only has the public mind been unwarrantably excited upon a subject of world-wide interest, but the name of a respectable colonist (Mr. Hack) has been calumniated and abused by the perpetrator of this very discreditable hoax. We hope some one will give us his name for publication. It appears that Mr. J. B. Hack, annoyed at the supposed misconduct of his son, went personally to Gawler to look after him, and there found that it was not Mr. Charles Hack at all, but some one who had personated him, and palmed off the story in his name ! Mr. Charles Hack has not left Lake Hope. More we need not say, except to repeat the expression of our hope that as the laws of this country do not provide any direct punishment for the propagation of 'fake news,' public displeasure may be brought home effectually to the mind of the offender.
Posted by Cossomby, Friday, 17 January 2020 10:03:51 PM
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An introduction to the history of fake news and yellow journalism.

http://www.1843magazine.com/technology/rewind/the-true-history-of-fake-news

http://publicdomainreview.org/collection/yellow-journalism-the-fake-news-of-the-19th-century.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/fake-news-history-long-violent-214535

Apart from regularly using historic newspapers in my work, I have a particular interest in historic examples of fake news because I have a family connection to Thomas Bulling, one of the London journalists who probably faked the Jack the Ripper letters in 1888.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/were-ripper-letters-fabricated-journalists-180968004/
Posted by Cossomby, Friday, 17 January 2020 10:25:42 PM
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Finally, "Now many believe a sixteen year old girl ...."

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc.
Posted by Cossomby, Friday, 17 January 2020 10:30:37 PM
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Dear GrahamY,

Sorry mate but this bloke is terrible. He makes simple mistake after simple mistake.

Take this spot in the video;

http://youtu.be/mGe9JO58Uc8?t=550

“1939 the glaciers of Greenland and Norway faced the possibility of catastrophic collapse yet the government graph show in 1939 has been very cold, also in 1939 the Arctic regions around Spitsbergen were warming up at a rate of approximately one degree every two years, winter temperatures had warmed nearly 16 degrees, yet the government graphs show 1939 cooler than the late 1870s.”

This really misrepresents what the graph shows. The single high annual global temperature of 1878 wasn’t matched using the HadCRUT data until 1944. But the average annual global temps of the decade leading up to 1939 were over 0.15 degrees C higher than 1878. In other words it was very much an outlier.

Here is an explanation of why the post-war adjustments occurred.

“The big difference is the near-elimination of the temperature drop after the second world war, as a result of the corrections introduced in HadSST3. The recent changes are rather smaller, but there is a noticeable increase in temperatures since the late 90's.

Where do the differences come from? This question can be answered by separating out the contribution of the changes to CRUTEM and HadSST. Since Hadley and CRU distribute gridded datasets for the land and ocean data, they can be combined in any combination using a land mask to select between land and ocean series, or to perform a weighted average in the case of coastal cells - this is the method employed in constructing the HadCRUT4 combined maps (HadCRUT3 used a slightly different approach for coastal cells). Combining CRUTEM3 and HadSST2 give a very close approximation to HadCRUT3, and CRUTEM4 and HadSST3 give an almost exact reproduction of HadCRUT4. (This also reveals that additional corrections incorporated into HadCRUT4 have minimal impact).”

http://skepticalscience.com/hadcrut4_a_detailed_look.html

Seems straightforward to me.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 17 January 2020 11:44:44 PM
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The newspaper doesn't lie! That's a lie!, Back in 2019 an article from a prominent newspaper said it was difficult to buy drugs( from weed, to coke, lsd ecstasy, pills etc) online. But that was not the case. It's so easy. All you have to do was text the user with the name Lordkush46 on the wickr or kik app and place an order and it comes in your mail easy. It isn't that hard!! thousand on people in different states NSW, Victoria, Queensland, W and S Australia and Tasmania, depend on lordkush for prescription drugs, bud and coke. And he is reliable and never misses a dateline. so the Newspapers lied. Its easy to buy drugs online.
Posted by Lordkush46, Saturday, 18 January 2020 3:15:07 AM
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