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Where Are All The Adults?

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The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied. They want villains to hate and heroes to cheer — and they don’t want explanations that do not give them that. (Thomas Sowell).
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 29 December 2019 10:32:41 AM
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The quasi-religious commitment of some Australians to climate change is a manifestation of what happens to a nation when it abandons its Judeo-Christian roots.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 29 December 2019 10:35:01 AM
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Henry L your scientific illiteracy is astounding. You don't need advanced degrees in physics to understand the basics of human generated climate change.
Think of a morning in winter. Which is the warmer morning? When there are clouds, or a clear day? The answer is obvious. The cloudy morning is a warmer one. This is because several gases are greenhouse gases. One of these is water vapour. Others include carbon dioxide, others include methane, nitrous oxide, etc. But these four are the main ones.
How do they work?
Basically, they act as a "blanket". For the temperature of the Earth to remain the same [on average], given a constant solar output [yes it does vary]the amount of energy absorbed by the planet must equal the energy escaping the planet.
The energy of the "light" [light is only the narrow, and visible part of the Electromagnetic spectrum], abbreviated EMR, depends on the energy and wavelength of the photons.
High energy photons are short wave high frequency, and low energy photons are long wavelength, low frequency.
When a photon hits something, like a molecule of gas in the atmosphere, it will be absorbed and then re-emitted, but at lower energy.
The higher the energy of the EMR, the less likely it will be absorbed by the atmosphere, and will hit the ground or the ocean, warming the seas and the ground.
There are three ways to get rid of heat: conduction, convection and radiation. Heat is radiated via long wave, low energy infra-red light.
If the greenhouse gases, which absorb more low energy photons than high energy ones accumulate faster than they can be removed [carbon dioxide and water are removed via the photosynthesis performed by plants], then more heat energy will be trapped faster than it can be removed.
You should be able to work out the rest from there. For example, because the atmosphere contains more energy, storms are more frequent and more severe. Anyway, if you are going to criticise something, at least learn some basics, lest people think of you as an ignorant fool.
Posted by Rob H, Sunday, 29 December 2019 10:35:29 AM
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So irrelevant spiritually is the non- conformist church, particularly the Left wing Uniting Church, that had to combine three denominations to take home a decent collection, that it's President put out a Christmas Day video message rabbiting on about climate change. Faith in God and nature has been replaced by faith in venal, lying rent-seekers, rogue scientists and assorted liars
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 29 December 2019 10:50:06 AM
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Opinionated,
Without putting names to it, anyone who believes that climate change is brought about by human action is an idiot. The worlds climate has been changing since it was formed and that change will most likely continue, with human habitation or without. Those species that adapt to changes to their enviroment will survive and those that dont adapt will perish. all natural occurances.

As there is no proof that humans influence climate change, the believers are of a religous mindset as they believe without proof. They cannot accept that nature is more powerful than humans, dispite evidence of occuring earthquakes, vocanos, continental drift and even tides rising and falling, they continue to believe in their god of human influence.

One famous scientist once said, when the evidence changes I change my opinion, well so do I. So bring on the evidence and leave behind the theories and religous zest. Proof is what is needed.
Posted by HenryL, Sunday, 29 December 2019 11:22:49 AM
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HenryL,

The problem does not lie with the science. The problem lies with you.

You do not have the knowledge that allows you to make sense of the world in which you live.

You and people like you such as Hasbeen, Loudmouth, ttbn, etc., are forever consumed by your own states of irrationality that mask reality and substitute illusions of non-existence for factuality.

Hasbeen and Loudmouth try to compensate for their illusions by creating myths about their imaginary university degrees. ttbn does it by conflating religion, politics, science and common knowledge into an inarticulate paradigm that only he seems to be able to make sense of.

It's sad, so very sad. It's a warning to us all that our education system is failing people like you.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Sunday, 29 December 2019 12:33:33 PM
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