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They Still Refuse To Talk About Immigration

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In fact Victoria had a production line factory producing houses that only closed in the 1970’s and was owned by the Housing Commission. It was rendered unfit for purpose by the good old public service!
IKEA are well on the way with something cheap and cheerful. Who wants to live in a rabbit hutch is another question.
If there was concerted efforts to sort out planning etc we could have houses at a quarter of the costs within a year. Vested interests stop this but let’s see what happens when the crash happens? World wide recession/depression is on its way and it’s our fault. Not pollies, RBA directors and public servants with massive pensions, us!
Immigration will not help us at all but only Pauline would sort that out, what to do?
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 5:57:40 PM
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ttbn,
>Your impertinent questioning doesn't encourage further attention to your post.
Nor should it need to! Do you want your seemingly absurd claims to be dismissed as senile ramblings?
If not, then it's worth explaining what they're based on - and the best way to do that is to answer the questions.

Having said that, I realise it doesn't apply if they really are senile ramblings...
Posted by Aidan, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 6:33:13 PM
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ttbn,
Surely you did not expect the government, or the oppersition to talk about immigration? After all the major parties have an agreement NOT to debate immigration, it was brokered by Bob Hawke PM and both parties now leave it up to the party in power to fix their own policy and numbers without comment from those across the chamber.

This will continue until someone has the balls to break the agreement and only then will the public get a say in the issue again.

Even though the public see the matter as important, it will be a long time before it changes. Both parties have protected themselves.
Posted by HenryL, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 8:14:56 PM
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Henry,

Of course I didn't. But if it's not publicly talked about, they won't even think about it. Keeping silent means you are happy with what they are doing.

You say, "This will continue until someone has the balls to break the agreement and only then will the public get a say in the issue again".

Right. So do something about it. Is it too much trouble to email politicians? Is too much trouble to tell them you will vote only for candidates who undertake to stop mass immigration? Is it too much trouble to withhold your vote, and write on the ballot paper why you are doing so? I did at the last federal election. We are allowed to do such things. We are not like China yet - but we will soon be if voters - not useless politicians - don't grow 'the balls' to exercise their democratic rights and start making demands. Politicians will never do anything until they are forced to.

You reckon the 'public' thinks it's important? No, they don't, or things would have changed long ago. Politicians have to be elected. Voters can refuse to elect duds like we have now - if they want to.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 10:55:37 PM
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Hey JBowyer,

I got curious and decided to look up this 'housing production line'.
Thanks for sharing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_Commission_of_Victoria
"The Commission was keen to produce the largest number of house at the lowest cost, and in an era when prefabrication was widely regarded as the most efficient construction method, the Commission continued its pre-war development of precast concrete houses. In 1946 the former Commonwealth Tank factory building in suburban Holmesglen was leased to the Victorian Housing Commission, and transformed into a 'Housing Factory' for the production of prefabricated concrete houses and flats. The entire operation became a production line process and by 1948, 1,000 houses had been produced. In the middle 1950s, the factory was producing two to four storey walk up flats, and by 1964 the Concrete House Project was turning out pre-cast walls for villas as well as walk-ups and would soon be producing the components for high rise towers."

http://www.mbemalvern.com.au/mhs/what-is-the-history-of-the-holmesglen-tafe-site/
"By 1948, 1,000 houses had been produced. By 1964 the Concrete House Project was turning out pre-cast walls for villas as well as 2, 3, 4, 8 and 20 storey concrete flats in slum reclamation areas, including the Horace Petty Estate in South Yarra. Park Towers, the award winning 30 storey flats in South Melbourne, reputed to be the tallest pre-cast, load-bearing wall building in the world, was built at Holmesglen."

http://vhd.heritagecouncil.vic.gov.au/places/6023
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:10:46 PM
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SMH headline: "Australia's economy tipped to grow slower than than Greece as signs show that tax cuts haven't work".

Poor English of the kind we now expect from our media. They mean slower than Greece's economy, not the growth of Greece itself. Although our population growth is probably many times higher than Greece's, thanks to mass immigration.

But, the warning is there. Australia's economic growth is 1.7%, lower than that of Greece's economic growth.

How embarrassing is that. We are worse off than the basket case of the EU!

Mass immigration is really doing wonders for us.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 17 October 2019 9:30:05 AM
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