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MEDIA: why gag the devastated state of the world ocean?

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And consequently damage is continuing and worsening, including exponentially.
JF Aus,
I won't argue your point because I'm not enlightened on this but I would like to ask if you could put forward your suggestion for a possible solution. It undoubtedly all goes back to too many humans polluting the Planet.
Posted by individual, Friday, 2 August 2019 4:30:18 PM
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How typical of sociologists & greenies, any theory they dream up is better than proven facts. Mr O, & JF Aus want to believe the Australian east coast current is a north going current, so it must be so.

The fact that radio buoys have been tracked a number of times proving the whole drift is to the south has no effect on them believing their own garbage. Yes sometimes a back eddy can to move on a big ellipse, but the flow is south. Sydney toilet paper ends up in Bass straight, not the reef.

I doubt either of them have ever been out to sea to test their theories. If they had, they would have seen the lobster pots buoys streaming south, at times dragged south so hard by the current, they are dragged under water for extended periods.

They could of course ask the sailors who have sailed the Sydney Brisbane race. They well know there are back eddies in the current going north along some of the deeper beaches. It is only a narrow bit of water, & only in the deeper bays, but it is critical when sailing on light wind nights to sail in close to the beaches to get out of the south going current, that can easily carry you south, & into the counter eddy. Those eddies never get past the headlands.

That great yachtsman James Hardy, when giving a talk to yachtsmen about to do their first Brisbane race, told them to sail in very close to the beaches. When asked how close he famously stated "if you can't hear the dogs barking, your too far off".

I get so sick of these clowns calling anyone stating facts they don't like, denialists, while spouting the utter garbage they believe.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 2 August 2019 7:51:48 PM
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https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Schematic-of-the-main-ocean-currents-off-eastern-Australia-Surface-currents-are-shown-in_fig2_228492387
There, no stop arguing !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 3 August 2019 1:10:54 AM
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Individual,

F.y.i.

No worry but I can't go to your link at present because I am presently using a smartphone and can't copy and paste that inactive link. Later this morning I will use my laptop and get to it.

If you delete the s off the https when you post a link on OLO, the link will become active. Graham explained the OLO system does not recognise the s.
Cheers.
JF.
Posted by JF Aus, Saturday, 3 August 2019 8:10:02 AM
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Dear JF Aus,

Good luck with trying to get Hasbeen and individual to understand anything. If you show them that white is white and black is black they will still call both grey! They are so full of paranoid delusion that the scientific community is lying to them and trying to harm them that I don't even think their psychiatrists will ever be able get through to them.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Saturday, 3 August 2019 8:41:48 AM
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Mr Opinion,
Please don't give up on Individual. He/she does not have the same attitude as Hasbeen, who has changed with more negativity recently.
I value your input because there may be others similar to Hasbeen, for example at the top of GBRMPA and JCU science that do not include the northerly longshore flow of elevated nutrient water in their GBRMPA science.

Individual,
Here is your now active link.
http://www.researchgate.net/figure/Schematic-of-the-main-ocean-currents-off-eastern-Australia-Surface-currents-are-shown-in_fig2_228492387

In response:
The link shows a schematic main OCEAN currents off eastern Australia, determined main currents, not ALL currents.
In terms of biological value I submit a main current is the alongshore/longshore current that drives the Australian east coast sediment dispersal system that supplies natural nutrient, and now also sewage nutrient pollution, to seagrass nurseries and coral ecosystems that provide food to fishes and other animals of the Pacific Ocean.

The Australian CSIRO advised me the alongshore/longshore current is insignificant and therefore has not been named.
However I have evidence the Australian east coast longshore current is very significant, because it is the northward flowing current that, apart from biological value, also transports sand used with cement to build City of Sydney high-rise and housing and other infrastructure.

If ABC or other MSM reported insight to Australian east coast ecosystems and currents more people would understand the need for solutions to the cause of damage and destruction of the GBR and estuary food web nursery ecosystems.

If there was general knowledge of the need I think genuine scientists would not be afraid of losing grant support for their livelihood and would apply to explore scientific evidence required to get solutions underway.

The ABC and MSM cannot deny there is a powerful current that transports heavy sand northwards along beaches and past cliffs, sand that sometimes blocks estuaries and has to be dredged to send sand onward, northwards.

Yachties never sail close enough to dangerous beaches and cliffs so therefore don’t experience the significant northwards flow of alongshore or longshore current as it is called, but it’s there and is transporting sewage nutrient pollution, gagged by MSM
Posted by JF Aus, Saturday, 3 August 2019 11:48:52 AM
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