Not in their engineering studies Belly, other than project management. Most good engineers complain that they get pushed further into management, the more they learn how to be good engineers.

Most of these are put through increasing numbers of management courses, mostly not of much use to anyone but the course organisers. So yes many are muddling through in management. However in my experience, most of them are better managers than those who's training is in university management courses. There is nothing more useless than professors who have never managed anything teaching kids how to manage.

Not quite Mr Opinion. You see while you were studying tweedle winks stuff in sociology, I was doing more math & statistics. I see you have learned well the arrogance of the academic particularly those in make believe disciplines.

I only gave up when I discovered most of the teachers knew just a little less than I already did. Books written by the really knowledgeable are wonderful things, only exceeded today by what is available on the net. Wish we'd had it back in the 60s.

Hasbeen a truth, in my case the then NSW RTA sent young graduates on tour, they would spend about two years in one place
It seemed we got the brand new ones, and it showed
They, the best of them gained skills as they went
Thinking back to those days things have changed
Road stabilisation used many different products mostly bagged Lime [would have done better using the Queensland more road base solution]'A whole semi trailer would arrive and no more than two men[me always] would first throw in on the road as the truck moved forward
Then open every bag, burn the empties,and be taken for a shower
Then come back and empty the second load
Those days are gone tanker and pumps now

Dear Belly,

Good Morning.

We celebrated my Birthday with the family yesterday.
It was wonderful. My grand-kids are the joys of
my life. And it was a lovely day.

One of the gifts that I received was a DVD -
"The Happy Prince." It was on the last days of Oscar
Wilde - so vividly evoked in Rupert Everett's
directorial debut. It was a desperately moving film.
Rupert Everett not only directed the film but acted
the part of Wilde. Truly gut-wrenching.

It also showed the effects of prejudice on human beings
but at the same time it showed the true riches of love
as well.

Not for the faint-hearted.

I'm still thinking about it this morning.

cont'd ...

Do you think that our prejudices are as bad today
as they were those decades ago? Have we not
really progressed all that far? Do homosexuals
still get bashed today?

'What has changed in our lifetime'? I've changed.

Unfortunately, my education amounted to the NSW Intermediate Certificate in 1954. My IQ was measured at school and found to be about average. My parents were informed; your son might get into some sort of trade. But forget all about going to University, or pursuing some academic or scientific career. What changed my life, was the military, Vietnam, and later the police force.

When growing up, I recall being allowed to ride on the Bakers Cart; the odour of fresh bread; and kicking the football around the street, all were treasured memories. The milkman leaving milk in our billy can (no milk bottles), as his horse-drawn cart made its own way up our road. We left a note advising him of quantity, a pint or quart, with the money on the front step. It was never stolen. Another bloke used to come around every few months, yelling out 'clothes props' from his horse and wagon.

There were the pictures on a Saturday afternoon, always a double feature, including several cartoons. Later when old enough, it was on Saturday evenings, also a double feature. Plus the 'Twentieth Century Fox' News, a cartoon, the movies, with an interval in between. At the end of each session, God Save the King/ Queen, was played. We all dutifully stood, being as it was our National Anthem at the time.

The Vietnam War had a profound effect on my thinking, as well as many others of my vintage. A very turbulent time. I was in the ARA, so I was sent anyway. Those who chose to avoid conscription were generally looked down upon by my group. As I aged (nearly 80), I understood more clearly those who claimed to be 'Conscience Objectors,' they did have a legitimate case as well. Perceptions of cowardice were often erroneous with most, as I learned much more about their ethics and morality as the years passed. I think the whole question of the Vietnam War, split our entire population, like none other, in contemporary times.

Foxy o sung wo, must be reading my mind both posts [the thoughts behind them] could have been mine
This bush breed kid never knew what a homosexual was, until first job in Sydney
Yes we carry the racism we learn with us, I carried that one for about the first half of my life
But voted yes and as long as it is not compulsory support them still
Cloths props yes o sung wo, you left out the rabbit o,on the street often and many saying it was cat not rabbit they sold
In fact much later a work mate breeding them, [not one anothers best mate] sold me a pair for mum who loved them each fortnight
We got our heads together and put the story around he was selling me cats
Boy we had fun, telling each other the horrible things they thought I would do on finding out
Remember all those radio shows? Tarzan, a host of them and we did not miss listening to them