Poor poor Foxy,

The subtlety of the issue just eludes her.

Again, please try to understand. No one is saying the colonisation of Australia was a bed of roses for the natives. It wasn't. It was, at times, brutal and the forced transfer of a backward stone age peoples into the modern world is never pretty.

All we are saying is that it was less brutal than had the coloniser been any nation other than Britain. Why is that so difficult for poor poor Foxy to understand?

If you compare the Spanish/Aztec situation (for example) to the British/Australian situation, then the point becomes clear. 90% of the Aztec peoples were wiped out within one generation. Their culture, religion, way of life utterly and permanently destroyed.

I've commented before that the lack of historic knowledge and understanding often leads people down the wrong garden path.
Here's another prime example of that. I'd encourage Foxy to acquaint herself with some of this history...but alas, there's little chance of that.

Foxy,

Terminology like claiming Aus was invaded not settled is politically correct not technically

Foxy you stated “ from the perspective of the Aboriginal minority, things are never going to be fine again”.
What a pompous, delusional comment.
Have you never met any of the thousands of highly successful aboriginal people who are living contented lives and who would never want to return to the life lived by some of their ancestors?
Do you honestly think aboriginal people are sitting around mourning the loss of their hunter, gatherer life, having to go out in all weathers to try and find something to eat? Are they actually missing having to suffer the pain of injuries and illness without the benefits of modern medicine to ease their pain. Or perhaps they regret not having the option of killing the newborn babies they can’t feed, and wow, just think, back then they could have abandoned their frail aged and left them to die, rather than the onerous duty of having to find a nursing home for them. And of course, all women would much rather return to being property, belonging to men, being physically punished at whim, and being promised in marriage to some smelly old man when they were very young girls. I mean, what woman wouldn’t want to return to that?
I cannot understand your motive for wishing eternal victimhood upon aboriginal people, and certainly I teach my aboriginal descendants to remain a long distance away from people like you, who seem to want them to fail, but I do wonder if you ever consider how racist you really are by assuming aboriginal people will never be successful in life

mhaze,

The Aztecs were a mighty empire in the 14 and 15 hundreds.
They were one of the most advanced civilisations in the
Americas and they built cities as large as European cities
of that time.

In 1521 Spanish invaders destroyed the Aztec empire yet today
the Aztecs left a long and lasting mark on the Mexican
culture. They founded the city of Tenochtitlan. We've visited
the site - most impressive. The Aztec culture is very much
respected in Mexico today and cannot be compared to the
way Aboriginal people have been treated in Australia.

We have both the Aztec Calendar (bronze plate wall hanging)
and a vast collection of Aztec bark paintings in our home.

In 1520 the Aztecs rebelled and drove the Spanish out of
their capital. There are many thousands of people today in
Mexico who have Aztec ancestry and also many descendents
of Aztecs live in California and Texas.

The achievements of the Aztecs have been fully recognised
and supported by the Mexican Government and the Museum
of Anthropology is a fascinating place to visit in
Mwxico City. We travelled extensively throughout Mwxico
while working and living in California for over ten
years.

Shadow Minister,

I've stated in the past that if "political correctness"
is the first cry out of someone's mouth then the chances
are that that person is part of the problem, not the
solution.

Dear Big Nana,

You need to read what I actually do write and say -
and not make assumptions that are not correct.
I shall try to do the same for you - and not make assumptions
about you or your intentions.

cont'd ...

BTW:

For me this discussion has run its course.
I don't enjoy being insulted and attacked
for my opinions - which are based on my research
of recorded history. I shan't be responding to
any more posts. And I hesitate now about responding
to anything concerning our Aboriginal people in
the future. All of you have claimed at one point or
another to be pro - "freedom of speech," yet you
seem to deny this to people whose views don't
agree with yours.

Poor show all round! Not cricket (more like rugby).

Dear Big Nana,

BTW - I know several successful professionals
of Aboriginal ancestry. I've worked with quite
a few of them - especially through Magabala Book
publishers. So don't assume - ask.