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"Greens Senator Janet Rice says farm trespass is ‘sometimes necessary’
CHANTELLE FRANCIS, The Weekly Times
July 25, 2019 4:54pm
ANIMAL activists breaking the law is “sometimes necessary”, Victorian Greens Senator Janet Rice says.

“Civil disobedience is sometimes necessary to expose cruel and illegal practices,” she said today.

“We know people have been appalled about what is going on with live sheep exports, and the cruelty of some poultry farm operations.

“These practices have only come to light because people when people have been forced to break the law to collect evidence.”

In earlier comments to the ABC, Senator Rice said calling out bad practices was “often very difficult to do” legally."

Is it OK to break the law, sometimes; or should a Senator be taking a different tack?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 26 July 2019 1:34:04 PM
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Not surprising. What is surprising is that nobody has the nuts to deal with these people.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 26 July 2019 11:27:19 PM
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Well, we do see Law abiding Citizens being screwed when they're unable to comply with entrapment-featured Govt policies !
Posted by individual, Saturday, 27 July 2019 6:32:06 AM
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No politician should get away with standing up, in Parliament of all places, and saying that people should be disobeying laws they don't approve of; and the law against trespassing is pretty basic and accepted by 99.9% of the population. How would this Green dipstick react if people waltzed onto her property as they pleased.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 27 July 2019 9:34:05 AM
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Hey Is Mise,

“These practices have only come to light because people when people have been forced to break the law to collect evidence.”

That's bs, we have bodies to oversee safe farming practices and ethical treatment of animals.

If someone suspects the mistreatment of animals is occurring why not inform and allow the appropriate professionals to deal with the situation the right way?

- And if those people are not doing the job they're supposed to be doing then THEY should be exposed as incompetent -

If you believe the RSPCA is incompetent in finding and stopping sources of cruelty to animals then that is what you should focus on exposing, not justifying breaking laws yourself because you think others are already doing so.

I don't like others arguing in support of their own unethical criminal behavior.

'Trespassing is wrong; BUT it's ok if you're hungry and need to rob someone to eat.'

Telling me that some 'illegal act' can be instead labelled 'essential civil disobedience' for morally virtuous reasons is blurring the lines at the extreme.

And all that aside, the RSPCA does seem to care at least just as much about Coles and Woolies endorsements on their meat products than the treatment of animals in the first instance.

>>Greens Senator Janet Rice says farm trespass is ‘sometimes necessary’<<

I'd be willing to bet money she won't be trespassing on others private property herself nor going to court to speak to the Magistrate about her beliefs to try defend someone charged with trespassing on someone else's property.

Australian leaders encouraging criminal behavior they're unwilling to commit themselves.
- And people wonder why the country's is going down the toilet -
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 27 July 2019 10:11:46 AM
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The reason these greenies break the law has nothing to do with helping anyone, but their donation rate by compassionate people fooled by media hype of these activities.

Greenpeace is a prime example. The media are always organised to be on hand to publicize the "event" to bring on the donations by the easily fooled. As they & the media are conspiring to create these public nuisance "events" both parties should be charged with conspiracy.

People should be allowed to protest, to highlight their opinion, but not in any way that interferes with other citizens going about their lawful business. There are public spaces available to use for such gatherings, & such gatherings should be made to use them.

These clowns that superglue themselves to roads & such should be fire hosed & left to extract themselves from their situation. Once they have extracted of course they should be arrested, charged, & forced to repay all the costs caused to anyone by their actions.

Perhaps then these children, with no idea of the actual world, would think twice before playing their silly childish games.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 27 July 2019 11:11:16 AM
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Isn't it high time the Govt officials start looking at not handing any more funding to these disruptors ? I bet none of them actually hold jobs !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 6:56:12 PM
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Posted by Valuersoffice, Thursday, 1 August 2019 2:41:26 PM
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