Luciferase,

If Australia is to go all out nuclear, what would you propose as the safe method of disposal of nuclear waste, and how would you sell your disposal idea to the public?

Luciferase, we have 3 years to start to re-educate the brain washed generation, & if the sunspots keep up their present games, we might have some very cold weather to help us.

I agree nuclear is much better than unreliable wind or solar, but some reports suggest it is about twice the price of coal or gas. Perhaps we have to find a Trump to help us save our finances.

Here's a primer (three very short parts) on waste (unused fuel) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUvvIzH2W6g

Reprocessing is a possibility rather than storage, a la France.

Oz has a geologically stable basis for storage until Gen 4 reactors are here to burn the "waste"(e.g. Elysium Industries is developing molten chloride salt reactors, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqVt8cxx-44 ).

The younger generation have less fear of nuclear than we were raised with after WW2 and I think can be de-programmed from the renewables brain-washing if the facts are put before them with a narrative they like. Their minds are more pliable to combining the needs of climate and the high energy lives they want to lead, rather than the hair-shirted existence the Green pied-pipers have in mind for them.

We do have to meet them somewhere over NG, etc, along the lines I've espoused on OLO. The next election will not be won by the LNP applying the tactics employed in the last one.

'When the ridiculous lowering of interest rates to fix our economy is proven to be ridiculous, the government is going to have to react to the nonsense about coal and get back cheap energy to create wealth and jobs'

you are right of course ttbn however what company in their right mind would invest in Australia these days with economic vandals like Labour/Greens, Turnulls and a weak kneed Liberal party who put barrier after barrier in the way of cheap reliable energy. I mean the QLD Government has just stolen 300000 plus off the tax payers so Jaki Trad could go weak at the knees hosting the charlatan from America Al Gore. Talk about destroying one's own future!

Luciferase,
Instead of just replacing one lot of crackpot ideas with anther, we should look to the truth, wherever it takes us. Your arguments have been peppered with incorrect assumptions and logical inconsistencies throughout this thread, starting with the very first sentence:
>If SHY says it's bad it must be good.
...which is totally illogical. SHY says things for a reason. Though she often gets it wrong, assuming her to always be wrong will land you even further from the truth than assuming her to always be right.

Before rushing to dispel the notion that Australia can be feasibly and economically viably powered with renewables without an enormous scientific break-through, have a closer look at what's already happened: there have been lots of little breakthroughs, together making renewables cheaper than coal. But as investing in new generation capacity reduces prices, it's more profitable for existing power generation companies to not add new capacity. Meanwhile the lack of any preferential treatment for domestic gas supply over exports means gas prices, and hence electricity prices, have soared, and toothless regulators let the electricity transmission and distribution companies rip off their customers. Yet there's still a widespread perception that it's renewables that are responsible for the high electricity prices.

'Tis time to end the dissing of renewables and tell the truth.

The idea that coal fired power could somehow "aid the third-world into affluence" is very far fetched, but even if it were true, its effects on the climate mean it would still be a bad strategy. And your assumptions that nuclear power would be good value for Australia contradict the experience in England. Why are you so convinced it would be much cheaper here than there?

And on what basis do you claim "The Transition" is no such thing?

You have to grin! if not burst out laughing, sun spots
Closely monitored for over a hundred years
The length the strength even that the average cycle is eleven to thirteen years
The world is not about to be burned up Hassy
Ham feast tomorrow Wauchope [port Mac club]
Will raise a grin there