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Adani's approval fast tracked.
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Posted by Belly, Saturday, 25 May 2019 1:57:37 PM
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Belly,
My dream is for a string of small nuclear power stations (emitting almost no CO2), providing electricity to a string of desalination plants, right across the north - except, of course, near big rivers - to provide water for tens, maybe hundreds, of thousands of square kilometres of varied forests, providing employment for life for thousands of Aboriginal able-bodied people, not just in planting trees, but in nursery work, hydrology, irrigation systems, and eventually milling and associated trades. Win - win - win - win ! Trees are Green, so I'd expect the Greens to get right behind such an idea, once they get over their aversion to new-technology nuclear power. If they cite Chernobyl or Fukushima, you'd know they're not serious: nobody in their right mind would use 60-year-old technology, or build on fault-lines or in tsunami-prone areas. Trees could be planted 3-5 m apart, so that would crack out to forty to ninety thousand trees per sq km, with km-wide firebreaks of course. So a few thousand sq km would mean up to a billion trees, irrigated on drippers, coming to maturity between five and thirty years from planting. That would suck a lot of CO2 out of our atmosphere. Then the Greens could focus their attention on the much bigger issue of pollution. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 25 May 2019 4:56:49 PM
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Loudmouth- Interesting plan. It's good to see thinking on this scale.
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 26 May 2019 12:25:29 AM
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Foxy and SR,
Both "environmental plans" that were being "reviewed" had both been signed off and Adani was clear to go until Jacki Trad instigated reviews and appointed green anti Adani activists to do this with a negative outcome 100% guaranteed. This level of corruption by State Labor is the reason QSL labor got thrashed. Anna's huge backflip is a last ditch attempt to paper over the damage. That Adani will go ahead is now clear, and the provision of clean high quality coal to India will be enabled. Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 26 May 2019 4:21:39 AM
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Dear Shadow minister,
Adani's coal ain't all that special; "The most important factor in determining coal pricing is its energy content. In the case of Carmichael, we’ve known since Adani’s initial regulatory applications in 2010 that this is around 20.7 gigajoules or 4,950 kilocalories per kilogram. That’s roughly in line with the stuff sold by Indonesia’s PT Adaro Energy Tbk. At present, Adaro makes about $66 of revenue per metric ton of coal sold, a number pretty consistent with charts published in its investor materials." But the sums aren't adding up even now; "Add all that together and Adani is losing $220 million a year: It would cost about $88 to produce a ton of coal that would sell for $66 on the open market. Those challenging numbers (rather than pressure from environmentalists) look like the best explanation for why banks have refused to lend to Carmichael. Adani has promised to fund the project from its own balance sheet." http://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-05-23/the-math-on-adani-s-carmichael-coal-mine-doesn-t-add-up?fbclid=IwAR2X4GpSi_0MqjjueESSXkmBVChW40aA4Dq488Nj-VglQvvc-BNeazI4sow I repeat; That mine will not become fully operational under Adani, they are way too exposed and would be copping a loss on every tonne they ship which they can only sustain for a short while. This is why they are stalling. The whole thing will go skyward and someone like Clive will step in and get it for a song. However not before both the Federal and State governments pump in public money to subsidise it first. Want to bet against me? Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 27 May 2019 1:30:44 AM
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Want to bet against me?
SteeleRedux, What, after all the sabotage ? Posted by individual, Monday, 27 May 2019 6:20:01 AM
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Yes every mine has a negative effect on the environment
We are better than this, we do look at and try to fix negative things about mining
NSW coast was sand mined it was devastated, but laws then in place saw new industry just to grow the plants to regrow what today is beautiful country
IF we stall a thousand jobs and tens of millions in taxes because the naked Yowi dancing man may inhabit that site what do we or the environment gain
Someone else will mine and sell coal, it will be used
We the so called lucky country ARE CALLED THAT BECAUSE OF OUR MINERALS will be broke and have coal in time, no one wants