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No Care based on a fair go is more like it. Why should our elderly be kept waiting and waiting while people from South push in.
I mean it.
The Gold Coast is the capital! of retirment. There for we have about six times the numbers of elderly and we are swammped with tree change people and migrants.
We have fifteen hundred people arriving EACH WEEK and! Staying.
Our Dear old Seniors CAN NOT get care.
These would be the ones that worked ALL their lives to pay taxes to make hospital available.
no Old and locals first sorry.
Wheres your manners and respect for the elderly In Australia?
WHY SHOULD an Australian Elderly person die because somebody fresh off a boat has pushed in.
Belly said have centers next to the hospitals
Good idea.
One for locals and one for new arrivals and overseas uni students.\
Would help also to keep some of the diseases from spreading through to the locals.
Such as we had a TB case at the Gold Coast hospital a few months ago and this awful virus which they know comes into Australia from overeas.
Nothing racist about that. Its a fact.
Its discusting our! own eldrly people are pushed aside and often die because Drs are busy with visitors.
It makes my blood boil.

PALE, dont rant about hospital availability for the elderly when you should be focussed on why there arent enough nursing homes. So many elderly are in hospital when they should be in a home (getting the level of care taht they need) that it really is beyond a joke.

Country Girl

When people take a stroke or a heart attack they need a Dr not a nursing home.
This is whats wrong with todays world. People actually think if your old your times up.

Your common sense ought to tell you as well we need less nursing homes and MORE in home care.

Try taking the care packages off the Church Based organisations and put that same funding direct into supporting in home care.

The tax payer provides thirty dollars a day for in home care to support the aged and disabled to stay in their own home.

Added to that there is another thirty to fity dollars a week the client pays.

The Federal Government send that to the State governments who SWANDER IT.

Instead of giving it to the States give it to the dial an angles or to the client or clients family.

If you do that you have either TWO part time jobs for a carer[ which provides income] and can be run through the carers department of centerlink.
That gives a higher quality of care and you need to build LESS nursing homes instead of more.
As for our elderly not needing a hospital I can assure you they need more DR attention not LESS.

Try the gold Coast hospital on a Saturday night and you will see the gangs of st fights and their SELF inflicted fights through grog and drugs alone side the migrants the uni students flood the hospital and our elderly left to last who require attention.
Its a discrace.
Thats another thing. If these uni students from overseas have parents who can pay thousands in advance for their schooling- WHY hasnt the Government MADE them pay for PRIVATE Health??
I repeat Bellys idea of centers next door to hospitals is a good one.

Pale please understand as we post we get the right to be heard and others get the right to have an opinion about us.
I like a laugh, and in my part of NSW it is said you must be born here or forever ,yes even after 40 years you will be ^ from away^.
Not normal for a small town, most welcome you with open arms, but some here are very much in a back water.
See those from away, run the stalls, the music days, all that is worth while.
Now the newcomers, I have only been here 25 years are the only reason the villages continue to exist.
I care not from what country or place a sick person comes.
But I care that any Australian would.
Let me assure you this southerner will not contaminate your state.
I, you, we all can learn from this thread, can it be that we care less for those from away than our selfs?

healthcare & hospitals do not necessarily have much in common, well at least in north qld from my experience. just like eductation, health too has become a career facility for useless to society bureaucrats. I want to stress that the medical personnel do an excellent job under almost impossible conditions. whenever a good doctor or nurse attempts to introduce some sanity into this lost system they invariably get kicked out because they're seen as a threat to the careers of bureaucrats. the misuse of public money is nothing short of phenomenal and at least in my experienc appears to be condoned by the very authorities who are charged with upholding the integrity & code of conduct etc. of government departments. The CMC for example asks Qld Health to investigates itself and, naturally enough no misconduct is found. I personally find that not even a change of government can stamp out the incompetence & waste of public money in Qld Health. Qld Health needs to be abolished & start from afresh. If anyone knows of a good investigative journalist then send him to work around far north Qld.

PALE, I agree that if someone has a stroke or heart attack the best place for the is hopital. However at least in NSW the hospitals are packed with the elderly that are too sick/frail to live at home, but cant get a nursing home bed. Your solution is really only good for those that require light care. For the elderly that require high-level care a nursing home of the appropriate care level is generally the best place for them. This is particularly the case where they have an elderly partner who might be capable of taking care of themselves, but shouldering full time care even with a nurse looking in once a day is a very heavy burden. Have you tried caring for a frail dementia patient (just as an example)?