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How is hate speech to be defined?

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If people don't want to be hated then they should refrain from behaving in an offensive manner !
Same goes for Hate speech. Don't dish out what you can't handle yourself !
Posted by individual, Monday, 25 March 2019 7:54:09 AM
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From what I understand the shooter's manefesto advocates violence against minorities and on that basis it breaks the law, if this is true then banning the manefesto is not a freedom of speech issue. However, if it does not directly incite violence then the banning is more problematic.
Secondly, in the internet age, banning something often raises its profile and makes it more desireable. For example the banning of the shooting video contributed to it going viral so much so that 50% of Christchurch kids had seen it by the following Monday.

Finally, the definition for many has been stretched to include anything they find offensive, and given the increased sensitivity today, 18c is a license to sue, which is why the term offence needs to removed from the legislation.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 25 March 2019 11:06:45 AM
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The murderer was a fan of North Korea (I didn't know about his admiration for China) so it's very likely that he would denigrate democracy and personal freedoms, and support dictatorship and authoritarianism.

Those young air-heads who don't think that democracy has all the answers (yes, they're right there but so what? It'll never be perfect: if you want perfect, you'll be waiting a long time ) need to pull back, consider this mongrel's similar denigration of democracy, and have the courage and diligence to compare it with dictatorships of all kinds before they write it off.

But since they already know everything, that's a faint hope.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 25 March 2019 2:13:08 PM
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generally 'hate' speach for the left equals truth.
Posted by runner, Monday, 25 March 2019 3:54:03 PM
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I just heard that NZ has passed legislation that if anyone possesses a copy of the Brenton Harrison Tarrant manifesto, it will bring a 14 year jail term. Also a Muslim person has been arrested for promoting violence.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 25 March 2019 4:11:42 PM
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NZ chief censor David Shanks has stated; "Freedom of speech is fundamental to our democracy, and we must move carefully when limiting it. But this shooters manifesto advocates atrocity and includes practical advice on how to achieve it. That's over the line.
Some will say that a ban in New Zealand is pointless because the document is available on overseas websites.
While our Parliament cannot police what happens overseas, we censor objectionable material".
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 25 March 2019 8:33:55 PM
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