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Is Mise,
Once brainwashed the chances of a full recovery are very slim indeed ! He DID join the Greens, not exactly a rousing endorsement. As a co-worker once said to me "the human mind is not like a rubbish bin that gets emptied every Monday morning". My loyalty was rewarded with broken promises but I don't believe I was brainwashed by the LNP & now I feel utterly let down.
The ALP just proved too openly incompetent & even corrupt to even be considered in my book.
I just have to have short discussions with the supporters of the ALP & it becomes clear in just moments that they're the professionals of hypocrisy.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 2 February 2019 9:46:53 PM
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Paul is a good bloke, he will not like my words
See the greens are in a death roll, for them not other party's
They always, have dreamers who will follow them
As Foxy has said independents and small party's bring
votes /dreamers
Dreaming of a better path
Yes too LNP and Labor can not dream, faced with the possibility they, either one, will govern, they dare not leave reality behind
They dare not dream the impossible dream, they must government well
Dreamers forget that, reality must not be ignored
Today's Greens in NSW for sure, are fighting their own internal battles, infected for decades by Socialists/even Communists, they rot on the vine of their own nasty internal war
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 3 February 2019 5:08:28 AM
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Hi Belly,

Sometimes political parties become victims of their own success. What can happen is a small external/internal clique while being unable to acquire any political authority in themselves seek to infiltrate a larger more successful group. We have seen this at times in both the Labor and Liberal parties, some would say its a phenomena taking place within the Liberal Party at the moment.

The clique without the majority realising it infiltrate the structure of the party placing themselves into internal position of authority. From those positions of authority the clique, out of all proportion to their numbers, then dictates the political direction of the party, in fact they try to control all aspects of the party. If the situation is allowed to continue unabated the destruction of the party is a certainty. The only remedy, and its a painful one, is for the majority to fight back, destroy the canker that has invaded and return to a position of what was successful, is now reinstated!

It is obvious on the Federal front that the Liberal Party is in disarray and fighting an internal war, some of it, is seen by the public, and of course they don't like it. Much of this infighting is kept from public exhibition, taking place just under the surface. On a regular basis this disharmony bubbles to the surface for all to see. The Liberal Party without a real word of explanation has replaced two Prime Ministers recently, and promoted the unexpected "Jim Hacker compromise candidate" in Morrison to the number one job. The Liberal party also has the added problem that external un-elected, extremely conservative forces, have most of the say as to how the party is run. Until that external force drops dead, the party is going to be in all sorts of trouble.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 3 February 2019 7:47:18 AM
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We've seen all sorts of parties come and go in
this country for a variety of reasons. The two major
ones have always managed to survive. Some learning
more quickly from their mistakes, others more
slowly - but nevertheless surviving. Younger voters
are now coming more into the mix and are being more
selective about who they vote for. Party loyalties
are not as important to them as they were to their
parents. Policies now do matter. Many young people
are very concerned about the environment, climate
change, and so on - so I wouldn't brush the Greens
aside so quickly - not yet.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 February 2019 9:34:40 AM
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Paul1405 said- What can happen is a small external/internal clique while being unable to acquire any political authority in themselves seek to infiltrate a larger more successful group. We have seen this at times in both the Labor and Liberal parties, some would say its a phenomena taking place within the Liberal Party at the moment.

Answer- The conservatives have always been part of the Liberal Party. In fact the Liberal party needs them to make up the numbers. Paul1405 is right that similar things have happened as to the Greens- but this is different. For twenty years or more "the conservatives within the Liberal party" has been saying that it has moved too far to the Communist Socially Progressive Left- now they have said enough- because their supporters have said enough. It's the fault of the Free Marketeers for not listening- now business will be decimated by the Communists- until the Small L Liberals (big money Liberals)/ Free Marketeers wake up and smell the coffee.

Once the Free Marketeers wake up and realise that they can make a profit from operating their businesses in Australia as long as they don't get too greedy- otherwise they will suffer.
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 3 February 2019 10:03:03 AM
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Do communists still exist?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 3 February 2019 10:07:00 AM
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