In the UK, 9 major cities, including London, have Muslim mayors. This has been accomplished by 4 million Muslims - 1/16th of the voting population. There are 3,000 mosques throughout the land, and over 130 sharia courts.

Not the sort of thing that main stream media wants you to hear.

Mainstream media is aware these people got elected for the roll
They understand *not enough Muslims exist in ANY British City to elect a Muslim without others support
Will not return to this thread, fire feeding is not my hobby

Very concerning ttbn

CC,

It certainly is; nobody seems interested though. Perhaps they will take notice when it happens here, as it inevitably will unless we can loosen the grip of the Far Left, and somehow elect politicians with courage and a real care for our society and way of life.

Sorry, I meant CM.

ttbn,

I wonder what impact Brexit would have on this.

//elect politicians with courage and a real care for our society and way of life.//

And who would they be ttbn, Corny Banana and The Lovely Pauline?

NO ONE can put a case for other than the community voting these people in to the roll
NO ONE can produce evidence that says Muslims had the power or even near it, to impose them on the electorate
NO ONE can convince racists they are blind to truth
NO ONE can tell me why people of other faiths and racial backgrounds holding office voters elected them to is in any way a concern

Islam does not move into a country as a religion but as a political ideology ruled by Imams imposing religious law on the citizens of the country.

Try to remember: Muslims are not coming to the West to 'escape' from anything - they are coming to colonise, very successfully in places like the UK and Germany as is plain to see by all but those who have their heads firmly up their bums in fear. They are too frightened to even talk about the problem, and demand that their lunatic politicians do something about it. Islam is not even a true religion; it is a fascist political organisation intent on murder and mayhem to get its way. And, it is succeeding, thanks to indolent and ignorant Western politicians.

Dear CM,

You wrote;

“Very concerning ttbn”

Why?

In 2015 under 2000 mosques in the UK and over 50,000 churches.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35514840

Given that the Muslims made up a touch over 5% of the UK population then the proportions appear to be spot on.

Muslims have been a part of the UK story for a very long while.

“By 1911, the British Empire had a Muslim population of 94 million, larger than the empire's 58 million Christian population. By the 1920s, the British Empire included roughly half of the world's Muslim population. More than 400,000 Muslim soldiers of the British Indian Army fought for Britain during World War I, where 62,060 were killed in action, and half a million Muslim soldiers of the British Indian Army fought for Britain against the Nazis in World War II. David Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1916 to 1922, stated: "we are the greatest Mahomedan power in the world and one-fourth of the population of the British Empire is Mahomedan. There have been no more loyal adherents to the throne and no more effective and loyal supporters of the Empire in its hour of trial." “

“Muslim mass immigration to Britain began after World War II, as a result of the destruction and labour shortages caused by the war. Muslim migrants from former British colonies, predominantly India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, were recruited in large numbers by government and businesses to rebuild the country. Large numbers of doctors recruited from India and Pakistan, encouraged by health minister Enoch Powell in the early 1960s, also played a key role in the establishment of the NHS health service”

Wikipedia

So what is your issue?

Overall, there were 340 Christian denominations in the UK in 2010 (as against 275 four years earlier), with 50,700 churches or congregations (2% more than in 2005), served by 36,600 ministers (4% up on 2005), and with 5,515,000 members.
Membership, as applied by Brierley, is a composite measure, with church attenders substituted for denominations which have no concept of membership (such as Roman Catholics and most New Churches and Pentecostal churches).
Church membership in 2010 was equivalent to 11% of the population, the proportion having declined fairly consistently since 1900 (when Brierley reckons it as 33%). There has been a UK-wide fall of 6% since 2005.
Membership has been static in England between 2005 and 2010, increases in the New Churches, Orthodox churches and Pentecostal churches offsetting decreases in the traditional mainline denominations (with Methodists shrinking fastest).
By contrast, membership in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland fell by 15% during the quinquennium, largely due to decreases in the Church of Scotland and Roman Catholic Church in Northern Ireland.

The vast majority of Muslims in the United Kingdom live in England: 2,660,116 (5.02% of the population). 76,737 Muslims live in Scotland (1.45%), 45,950 in Wales (1.50%), and 3,832 in Northern Ireland (0.21%). London has the greatest population of Muslims in the country.

It put the 2005-10 fertility rate among UK Muslims at 3.0, which means that the average British Muslim had exactly three children in her lifetime, compared to 1.8 children for non-Muslim women.
By 2030 the rate is predicted to fall to 2.5 for Muslims and remain at 1.8 for non-Muslims.

It might take 100 years instead of the 2050 prediction for Britain to be majority Muslim under shariah.

The UK continues to capitulate to Islam:

A middle-aged man, Billy Charlton, was brought to trial for ‘targetting Muslim rape gangs during a series of public rallies in Sunderland. Yes, targetting Muslim rape gangs!

The Home Office banned eminent American scholar of Islam, Roger Spencer from entering the UK but, shortly after, granted entry to:

Saudi Sheikh Mohammed al-Arefe, who is ‘Devote to jihad for the sake of Allah, and desires to shed blood, to smash skulls, and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah

Syed Muzaffar Shah Qadri was BANNED FROM PREACHING IN PAKISTAN (of all places) because he was promoting hatred and violence, but the UK Home Office welcomed him into Britain.

Asia Bibi, the Christian Pakistani women acquitted of blasphemy after eight years on death row and in hiding from mobs seeking to murder her, is also banned from entering the UK because her PRESENCE might PROVOKE RIOTS AMONG THE UK MUSLIMS, But:

The British government has admitted two jihad preachers who had praised the murderer of an opponent of Pakistan’s blasphemy laws who had tried to help the same Asia Bibi. One of them was invited to take tea with the Archbishop of Canterbury.

The Home Office also admitted Shaykh Hamza Sodagar, who preaches that homosexual men should be beheaded, burnt to death, thrown of a cliff, or have a wall pushed onto them.

And, Salafist preacher, Brahim Belkaid, who has been banned in Germany for extremist associations, has been living in the UK for almost five years.

Great Britain is now Very Little Britain, a pathetic country that used to rule a huge swath of the world, reduced to a dhimmi state by Muslims they have actively taken in.

Josephus,
>It might take 100 years instead of the 2050 prediction for Britain to be majority Muslim under shariah.
No, it won't happen in 100 years nor even 1000, for three reasons:
• Though fertility is high among first and second generation immigrants, it's little different from the national average after that.
• Not everyone who's born a Muslim remains a Muslim
• The law of the land is Common Law – NOT sharia.

You seem to be under the false impression that most Muslims want Sharia to become the law of the land. But that's not the case. Most are aware of the corruption of the theocracies and certainly don't want to emulate them! They may, of course, still support Sharia as an option for the arbitration of disputes, and/or a basis for personal morality.

Josephus YOUR figures prove my point not one Mayor got there on the Muslim vote
Racism needs no truth

• "Though fertility is high among first and second generation immigrants, it's little different from the national average after that".

Wrong! That holds only for non-Muslim immigrants. Muslims are still breeding at a rate of four times the locals.

"Not everyone who's born a Muslim remains a Muslim".

No. Just most of them.

"The law of the land is Common Law – NOT sharia".

You don't understand what sharia law is. It is operating freely in the UK and Europe in matters domestic.

"Most are aware of the corruption of the theocracies and certainly don't want to emulate them!"

You have no evidence of that, because you obviously know nothing about Islam, which is a way of life posing as a religion. Your general attitude to genuine religions has blocked your understanding of what Islam really is.

It would be best if you never studied Islam at this late stage because you would be embarrassed to find how stupid and ignorant your comments have been.

Belly,

You said "...Will not return to this thread, fire feeding is not my hobby" and yet you have posted two times more.

Are you trying to emulate Foxy?

ttbn,
Considering your figure of "four times that of the locals" is much higher than what even Josephus claimed, I think it's safe to presume you pulled that statistic, and the claim that I was wrong, out of your own posterior. If not, how about you tell us the source?

You claim I know nothing about Islam, but in the same post you demonstrate that you know far less about it than I do! Muslims have widely differing political views, and indeed widely differing religious views. What will it take for you to accept this?

Sharia is not the same thing to all Muslims, and I mentioned three things that it can be. One of those (an option for dispute arbitration) is indeed operating freely in the UK and Europe – and, AIUI, also in the USA.

Don't get me wrong - many Muslims do have dangerous and repugnant views. But there are also many who don't.

http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/qld-restaurateur-abuses-health-inspector/news-story/ba1743ae17b8e16943ec4723dc80e9e7
Racism is always wrong, in this case, maybe most cases, it is used by some one who, clearly is in the wrong
If we continue to promote racism , even lie to prove it, as this thread does, we are harming humanity

This thread is so fake it warns us all, haters hate, even the truth
Russia would be proud of some posters who suck this up
They may even send recruiters out to get them on board for the re-election of Putin,s Puppet Trump
WARNING, few people not from the deep south fall for hill billy stuff like this
In this case it is not the science they do not believe it is the maths

Aidan,

How about the source of your wild, ignorant claims?

Belly,

You didn't respond to Is Mise's comment that, having said that you wouldn't “come back to this thread”, you have come back SEVERAL TIMES. You have just come back again TWICE IN QUICK SUCCESSION! Can you explain that? Why do you say you won't do something, then break your word and do it? How can anyone believe a word you say?

What is this “racism” you are talking about? Islam is not a 'race’. Muslims belong to MANY races, including your race and my race. Didn't you know that? If you did know that, why do insist on continually making a fool of yourself?

You say “This thread is so fake it warns us all, haters hate, even the truth”

What does that mean? How is it “fake”. Are you saying I made it up? What about “haters hate, even the truth”? Are you saying that people cannot state what is true without hating someone? Do you know why you say any of the nonsensical things you are always blurting out?

“Russia would be proud of some posters who suck this up”

Now, there's a beauty: the Far Left would agree with me, a person often accused of being Far Right. Do you know what “illogical” means?

The rest of your second post is sheer lunacy, indicative of your lack of even basic education and common sense.

I said that I would leave you alone, but you have taken advantage of my understanding that you are not the full shilling, and demonstrated that you are the real troll you always yabber about.

You silly, ignorant little man.

Dear Aidan,

It is very typical that when this lot get shown up on false figures, and they have nothing to back them up, they start with the personal attacks.

Chalk it up as yet another win mate and move on.

Aidan,

If you are going to take advice from your 'friend', SteeleRedux, you might like to ask him which figures used by me in this thread were "false figures", and just how I was "caught up", and by whom - certainly not by you, who did not produce any "figures" to back your claims.

Ttbn- Thanks for creating this thread. Communists are well known for creating allegiances with disruptive entities (such as the Muslims) and they are very influential in the UK. Many of Australia's most influential communists originated in the UK and Ireland. Light is the best disinfectant. The problem with intelligence action like that of the communists the more it's effective the more it's obvious- and it's vulnerability to counter intelligence. There need to be a few brave souls to carry out the counter intelligence- usually by just telling the truth- and working with like minded people. As Sun Tzu says dealing with spies is an extremely subtle affair.

Individual,

“I wonder what impact Brexit would have on this.”

I don't know, but what a mess they have made of Brexit. The PM's incompetence pretty much sums up Britain's race to the bottom. They have allowed themselves to be browbeaten, not only by Muslims, but also the EU tyrants until they have become mesmerised and fearful like rabbits in a spotlight. My background is three parts British, by I am disgusted by what's happening. 'Rule Britannia’ and 'Land of Hope and Glory’ have been well and truly left behind.

I was very proud of Peta Credlin when she told the Poms on radio in London recently how to sort themselves out. She modestly and politely declined to answer at first, but the interviewer insisted and she told them.

CM,

Yes. Islam and the Left are made for each other. The Left, however, is in for a nasty shock after they have served their purpose.

Light, as in shining it on the truth, is the only way to expose and counter what is going on. Hence the paroxysms from the Left here when anything but fake news from their MSM masters is brought to light. All I try to do is give people the chance to see something different from the lies of papers and the electronic media. The loony left immediately paints it as 'fire lighting’ or rabble rabble rousing because they don't like the truth about them to be known.

Dear CM,

You wrote;

“usually by just telling the truth”

Mate if I thought for one moment that was what you were about then I wouldn't be pulling you up all the bloody time.

I repeat my earlier post;

You wrote;

“Very concerning ttbn”

Why?

In 2015 under 2000 mosques in the UK and over 50,000 churches.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35514840

Given that the Muslims made up a touch over 5% of the UK population then the proportions appear to be spot on.

Do you want them to have less places of worship than others per head of population? Is that what you are saying?

Why do you think they are 'Marching through Britain' when it is patently obvious that is not the case?

You have to have a little more than deep seated irrational fears and prejudices to sustain an argument here mate. Give it a go for once.

In a way this thread fake news fake views shows how shallow the very Conservative movement is
Unable to make ground with facts they make it up then swear they did not
AT after Trump falls, some here will forget they said so much very silly stuff

CM,

SR seems to be unaware that the UK is a Christian country, with the Church of England being the OFFICIAL church. HM the Queen is head of it. Whether we believe SR or not - he scuttled to the Leftist BBC for information, as his kind do - those "50,000" Christian churches have been there for centuries. Unlike the 3,000 mosques, those churches are not interested in turning Britian into an Islamic caliphate.

You will never get any sense out of SR, one of the Three Sneerers.

The liar, Belly (I will not return to this thread) is back again, talking more indecipherable rubbish.

Individual,

Speaking of Britain and Brexit, this is a quote from my favourite conservative, James Allan. I have to include it in its entirety to set the 'cabbage’ theme:

“Taiwan's national museum boasts a magnificent jade cabbage which Chiang Kai-shek stuffed in his suitcase before fleeing across the Formosa Strait. Canada also has a cabbage, this one by the name of Justin. And Britain? Well it has vegetables of its own, not least the occupant of 10 Downing Street.” James Allan.

My posts on pages 2 and 3 are a copy and paste from a university study on the 2011 census. It is also their opinion that many Muslims did not declare their religion fearing a backlash.

It is blatantly obvious Belly cannot tell the difference between racism and religion, as many white English born persons are Muslim. He shows in this debate his ignorance of the facts.

"...Will not return to this thread, fire feeding is not my hobby"

That's a few more times!!

Belly,

Islam is a religion and Muslims are followers of that religion, so to be anti-Muslim is not racism it is just the old anti-religion that you have pushed yourself; so are you, by your own standards a racist or just plain old ignorant?

Ttbn- Thanks for your feedback. I didn't think I could add to SteeleRedux's comments.

The Muslim's appear to be more aggressive than most immigrants although African's are small but significant- Sharia Law is concerning- seems to be the start of a parallel society- so much for the Westminster System of Separation Of Powers. But many immigrants seem to have different views on morality and law than traditional Australians. Anecdotally Australian legal and police seem to fear criticism of racism from ethnic groups- and hence to prioritize this over the law. If this is true more police will do little to address law and order concerns within the community. Additionally it will give further access to diversity hires including ethnic groups and communists within the Police Forces in an attempt to dominate Australia's institutions. Ethnic groups remind me of ancient Greek and Roman shock troops for the "Communist Phalanx's" marching through Australian institutions.

I remember Indian- Puneet Puneet and his racist claims when he killed one and injured another on the Gold Coast then leaving on his cousins passport while on bail. His cousin should have been gaoled as an accessory in my view- not sure that he was.

There are some issues with money laundering between Muslim and Western countries currently given that there are not extradition agreements.

There are traitorous elements in positions of power within Australia- many things start to make sense when you acknowledge this possibility.

Power is a strong motivator.

It's also interesting to see how Communists use statistics.

http://www.soundvision.com/article/a-brief-history-of-racism-in-the-united-states
Is this, see link, the world we want?
What benefits will come from hating those who are different
I foolishly hope for balanced debate here
Real reasons threads so openly untrue, constructed untruths, need to power blind hate
Above everything else my question is how can ANYONE not see this thread is so wrong it is dreadful

To Belly

What would count as a balanced debate. The points I see that have merrit that could be considered ballenced are often rejected just on the point that they support the other side of the debate then the side those rejecting the points hold. Then on top of that even if the good points on both sides are not rejected, the often they are ignored to constrate on the points that have no merit and to fight against those points. Weak man and straw man fallacies to constrate on points of no value, instead of acknowledging points that have a strong stance.

For starters (of this balanced debate) here are two points that I would count as strong points in the debate of racism with regards to Muslims,

1). The actual harm done by the Muslim migrants, actually being acknowledged. These aren't small points to dismiss, but are a safety issue.

2). The value that several western countries have imbedded in them even from their beginnings (or at least strived to hold up to). That of a welcoming and hospitable country for anyone willing to immigrate to their home. I assume this was based on a Christian and Jewish teaching to be kind to the foreigners among you, and to treat fairly with them. As well as acknowledging the history of at least a few of the western nations foundations. That being that they were immigrants themselves. This also is a strong point I see worth not ignoring.

For your balanced debate, I would recommend you take the strong points given against the side of the debate you hold, as well as encourage others to do the same. Then (though it is hard to do) ignore the points that are only there to insult or shame another. Those are the weak points, that only sometimes have an underlying strong point behind them.

Belly,

That's another post!!

"Above everything else my question is how can ANYONE not see this thread is so wrong it is dreadful"

Easily, by using their brain.

Borders, language, culture. That's what it is all about. There really should be no issue about border protection. You either have a nation state or you don’t.

No immigrants of any kind have a right to try altering the country that has (often foolishly) taken them in. The lunatic policy of multiculturalism, introduced by the silly host countries themselves, has encouraged some immigrants to believe that it is OK.

As for Belly talking about 'balance’ - he thinks balance means agreeing with him. That's why he keeps 'coming back’ - even after he says he will not; he seems to think that, if he is persistent enough, others will come around to his way of thinking. It's obvious that he is not very bright, and he is entirely incapable of seeing what a goose he makes of himself, particularly with his 'not returning to this thread’ nonsense, then posting again a short while later. He once reached the stage that he claims to have been ‘driven out’ by some 'nasty’ poster. He still talks about it! At one stage, the Far Left suggested that I was that poster. No. I hadn't even heard of the bloke before he turned up again, talking about his 'victim’ status (typical state for losers). I just wish that the poster who he said pushed him out would return and do us a favour.

ttbn,
>No immigrants of any kind have a right to try altering the country that has (often foolishly) taken them in.
Yes they do. It's the right of free speech.

Paul Golding has been in three different prisons for speaking about Islam. While in prison viciously by an Islamist gang, sustaining serious injuries. He has been prosecuted seven times. He has been arrested fifteen times. He has been dragged into the High Court three times. He’s had death threat warnings from the police over Islamist terror groups. He is currently subject to two separate lots of bail conditions, a probation supervision order and a High Court injunction. Paul has been mercilessly persecuted by the authorities and our movement has been silenced by social media, but never gives up his fight to save our country!
Despite these horrific persecutions, attacks Paul has built one of the biggest and most successful patriot movements in British history, with almost 3 million followers worldwide. He has stood for Mayor of London and secured over 105,000 votes and been a local councillor.
In four weeks, he will again be in the dock facing prison for making a speech in Belfast in the aftermath of the Manchester Arena terror attack. His speech didn’t make any violent or inflammatory statements about Islam. He simply told the truth, that the West has a problem with Islamist terrorism! All four speakers at the rally were rounded up and prosecuted for criticising Islam. You see, under Sharia Law all criticism of Islam is banned - it is called 'Blasphemy'.
Muslim organisations, such as the 'Muslim Council of Britain', have long lobbied the UK government to ban criticism of Islam. In many Islamic countries - such as Pakistan criticism of Islam carries the death penalty. British spineless politicians - at the behest of powerful Islamic organisations are slowly introducing Muslim blasphemy laws into Britain. Therefore patriot leaders are ruthlessly persecuted in Britain for criticising Islam and the extremism within its communities.
Paul condemned terrorism at a time when they were removing the remains of murdered British children from the walls of Manchester Arena after an Islamist nail bomb attack. We don't want to live in a country where British citizens are imprisoned for criticising a religion?

Edited from a British Patriot.

Islam and Democracy cannot exist together; like to dispute that statement, Belly?

Josehus, that's a very selective view of him. Have you seen his Wikipedia page?

Josephus,

Golding seems an interesting person, tell us more about him.

Dear Is Mise,

you wrote;

"Islam and Democracy cannot exist together; like to dispute that statement, Belly?"

If you wanted to look just to our north the world's most populous Muslim nation holds democratic elections like many other Muslim nations and they seem to be doing okay.

In fact unlike us they don't serve under and swear allegiance to an un-democratically appointed monarch who is also the head of their major religion.

“Islam and Democracy cannot exist together; like to dispute that statement, Belly?”

Is Mise,

Are you trying to get Belly to break his word and not return to this thread :)

Aidan,

Trying to undermine a country has nothing to do with freedom of speech.

//You see, under Sharia Law all criticism of Islam is banned - it is called 'Blasphemy'.//

Well that's interesting. I wonder what the English word for blasphemy was back when they had laws against criticising the Church of England (i.e. before 2008)?

steelredux , [with true respect for GY] we seem infected more than ever before
By those who foolishly grasp at any lie any false claim, to defend any one like TRUMP
Rational debate is unwanted
This thread is evidence they are unable to think clearly
Is it old age?
It can be in fact is, cruel, more so for some of us
Can we expect more centrist posters to arrive/stay if they do
Doubtful
Just as doubtful even the downfall of the LNP/Trump, will be seen as other than a deep state plot
In the end a future cruel,right wing Dictatorship if it comes will make our verbal opponents its first victims

"In conclusion, a lack of any democratic culture among students and
political elites, and the tendency of the Army to see itself as ‘the guardian of the state’, threaten the transition to consolidated democracy in Indonesia. Whether or not democracy in Indonesia is stalled depends on whether political elites bear in mind what happened to the liberal democracy of the 1950s."

This conclusion of a 12 page report on Indonesian 'democracy' casts some doubt that there is anything like Western style democracy in that country. Mere voting does not a democracy make.

The idea of a democracy in any Islamic country has to be take with a grain of salt. Koranic teaching does not favour democracy, and I feel that the Indonesians are paying lip service to something like democracy for the purpose of trade, foreign investment, and handouts from Western, true democracies.

Remember Communist East Germany. They called themselves the German Democratic Republic (GDR). Just calling yourself democratic doesn't necessarily make you democratic.

'Twas a simple question, Belly; perhaps too simple for your liking, or your thought processes?

How're you going with your intention not to post on this thread?

Perhaps prayer would help?

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/pizzagate-alt-right-turkey-trolls-child-abuse/
A little lite reading for you is mise and you mates
While clearly a sham written to divide it will get you concerned

Belly How is it that on nearly any subject on this forum you without fail bring Trump into the discussion.

I suppose it is a change from blaming the Russians.

Just check them it does not matter if the thread is about Global warming, Muslims, facebook posts, A socialist manifesto for Labor, Was Peter Dutton Wise?, Justice delayed, you bring Trump into it, please seek help for your obsession.

Dear Philip S,

You wrote;

"Belly How is it that on nearly any subject on this forum you without fail bring Trump into the discussion. I suppose it is a change from blaming the Russians."

Well there is already a strong case they might be one and the same.

Is Mise (and everyone else who's too lazy to look it up themselves)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Golding
Rightwing nutters may see him a a patriot, but he's against nearly everything Britain stands for.
___________________________________________________________________________________

ttbn,
>Trying to undermine a country has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Wow, you've shifted the goalposts a very long way!

I never said anything about trying to undermine a country. I just pointed out that immigrants weren't excluded from the right to try altering the country they're in.

___________________________________________________________________________________

Toni Lavis,
Criticising the Church of England was perfectly legal. The blasphemy laws that applied there until 2008 were much more narrowly focussed: only God was above criticism; not any person or institution.

Its the IRISH!
Briton is up to its arms in them!
Those Scott's,more of them and the Irish live in England, even hold seats in Parliament!
Good grief Welsh, can they be trusted
Aussie ex pats, get them out of there too
What right have WASP voters got to elect foreigners?

Aidan,

I looked Golding up, I merely said that he was interesting, i.e. a person of interest.

Belly,

The Scots, Irish and Welsh et al, that is Celts, were in Britain long before the forebears of today's English.

Get yourself educated a bit, then come back and answer the questions or are you emulating another of Foxy's traits?

Certain people here try to conflate views on "genetics and community" with Nazism and imply that this correlation is "the thin end of the wedge of Nazism". While not an expert on Nazism it seems that a number of factors led to Nazism and these are not unique to Nazism and can be found in Communism and even relatively normal nations at different times in history. One major factor of Nazism and Communism is that of a National Dictator- I really can't see this happening in Australia.

Belly- I think you could be alarmist. That is not too say that certain things are not worth being alarmed about.

There is plenty of hate on the communist side.

//There is plenty of hate on the communist side.//

"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not communists but windmills."

Katy Hopkins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjzQrD7B63o

Tommy Robinson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQ3pmDjfkc

Spent time in prison for speaking out against Islam. He lost a niece murdered by Islamic grooming gang.

Tommy Robinson tells his story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQ94jFg_4A

SATIRE is mise but you would not understand that

Now there's the joke of the week. Belly telling Is Mise that he wouldn't understand what satire was! I'm surprised that Belly got the spelling right when he copied the word out. Even when he thinks he is quoting someone, he mis-spells most of the words he tries to repeat.

Belly,

Just answer the question.

Satire? I'm surprised that you can spell it.

Dear Is Mise,

Bloody hell mate, you obviously didn't twig to Belly's humourous post and took it far more literally that was intended.

That is the very definition of missing the satire.

So to cover your misconstrudation you attack a bloke over his spelling?

Piss poor in anyone's book.

Steele,

All of Belly's posts are humourous in one way or another and I didn't attack him over his spelling, I merely mentioned surprise that he spelt it right; in the past, I have tried to steer him onto Spell Check, but to no avail.

Is Mise Quote "All of Belly's posts are humourous in one way or another"

Sorry to say but I do not agree, something written is only funny if you understand what is written.

Lately a number of his posts defy translation to English,even though they are written in English.

Too much gobbledygook.

PhilipS,

Things can be humourous without being understood, the humour in some of Belly's posts is their very opacity.

I watched a group of Christians try to walk down a street in Britain with a wooden cross.
A group of standover Muslims who police Muslim sharia law in these areas promptly
confronted them and wouldn't let them walk down the street and yet here they are demonstrating in the street for tolerance of the Muslim religion.

The trouble with the Muslims is they want it all their own way. They don't demonstrate the same tolerance towards others that they demand for themselves.

Dear CHERFUL,

When and where?

CHERFUL,

I echo Steele, references are helpful.

Is Mise, thanks, I have spell check
Run widows ten use Crome
My spell check hates me
It is beyond me to fix it,it makes the weirdest offers to spell words like buffoon as bullet
Sure it is out to get me
Now for gramah, not the pie I grew up with PS IT THE BEAST!WANTS TO SPELL Graham not my poor effort at the pie thing
Installed one
Rotten thing! invaded and took over, murdered my spell check
Not on, had that job lined up for myself
uninstalled and hid from key board in fear for a day
Spell check, thing is demented
Best I can do is warn the spelling Nazis to avoid my posts

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Islam's primary purpose is: wherever they go claim land for Allah and enforce their laws in that area. The British police enforce the Blasphemy law that does not allow criticism of Allah or Mohamed because it offends Muslims and could cause social unrest. Christians are being persecuted in England because they do not accept Islamic shariah law. They [Christians] believe it supresses the mind of man to obey law against their will. Islam means suppression of the will to Allah and the laws of Allah. Christians believe in the free will of man otherwise the heart and mind do not serve God out of love and freedom of the mind. Occupying land for God does not feature strong in Christian values, but allowing freedom of the mind and will does. The heart is the kingdom of God; not land territory where submission to religious law reigns.

Just imagine if Christians or any other non-Muslims blocked the streets. The cowardly Pommy cops would be on them like a shot. The same applies in Lakemba, where the Muslims block the street to pray. If Australians did that, they would soon be moved too. The Poms are dhimmis in their own country. How much longer before we are the same, with our Liberal/Labor collaborators.

ttbn lets face it, at some level you know you are a rat bag
HAD to report you
here and in that other thread, see you aimed at Allan B as well as me
you break every rule in this place, you should be barred
if you continue to use my name to prod you break another rule
this site has suffered
common open debate has suffered
is OLO forum now only a right of reality abusive poster place

STOP USING MY FULL NAME
MY LIFE TIME NICK NAME IS BELLY
STOP INSULTING ALLAN B
Start using what remains of your brain.

Josephus the Christ I once loved was a God of love, we learned he made us all
Yes us all
I watched much love preacher use the Church for financial gain, saw on stage fraud healing,
I KNOW Islam teaches hate, do not like the faith
Any faith, I have faith men can live good lives on their own
But how do you find your creator wants you to hate others
Tell me the millions of Muslims throughout history who left the faith, are they targets for your hate
IS your Christ the man who got the money lenders out of that holy place
or is he a rabid hating far right supporter

Belly,

I have promised not to look at or comment on your posts from today forward.

But, I have gone back to 6th of March, 2014, which is when you made your last post, assuring everyone that you wouldn’t be back because it would make you look “weak”. But, here you are. Again. Still.

The journey back was quite entertaining. On 4/3/14, Graham was quite rightly offended by Foxy. She let fly with a tirade excusing herself. No changes since then. And, I found out who your supposed nemesis was: ‘on the beach’. But your main grouch seemed to be that Graham had opinions different from yours.

It’s all clear to me now. Had I known about you, I would never have said boo to you. And, rest assured, I was never ‘on the beach’.

ttbn
please note
I will report any abuse from you aimed unfairly at any one
YOU are not going to see me respond to any post aimed at me
not posting in any further threads you start
Such is my opinion of you I truly doubt you can post without insults and think you will find more trouble

//Just imagine if Christians or any other non-Muslims blocked the streets.//

I don't have to imagine it; the Baptist Church down the street from me do it every weekend.

//If Australians did that, they would soon be moved too.//

Hasn't happened yet. Maybe the Police are all Baptists?

Toni, Which Baptist Church holds prayer meetings in a closed street, obstructing traffic flow down the street?

Belly there is a difference in refusing a geopolitical system administered by religious leaders and its immoral behaviour. Hate directed at a person is immoral, and not Christian. Hate of an idea because of its consequences is legitimate. You hate deceivers as are some Christians. I would not hate them as individuals and act violently toward them. You can refute their ideas, as you do here to Christians. You hate their ideology but not act or promote violence toward them.

"Toni, Which Baptist Church holds prayer meetings in a closed street, obstructing traffic flow down the street".

The answer would be 'no Baptist church does it'. You simply cannot take seriously anything' Tipsy Toni says.

The value of women in Saudi Arabia:
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/saudi-arabia-panel-of-scientists-admits-women-are-mammals-yet-not-human/?fbclid=IwAR3yb7u_mb6cKl-fr0b3b94btRRstz6GqyP0S8V2YetZ3AMG_NXrqoCWrXo

Fr Joe,

You don't want to be near a Greek Orthodox Church at Greek Easter, road blocks everywhere. Even the local Catholics get in on the act, parading around the streets on their Saints holy day.

In line with Aristotle's comments " its not possible to force people to be virtuous but only to create society that encourages people to act virtuous".

1. You can't expect another culture to act to your standard of virtue- so you shouldn't let them in.
2. Muslims are even more different than Baptists and Greeks and so they should be even more restricted.
3. We should try to avoid letting dogmatic communists and "anti-aggressives" into positions of power because it makes the community vulnerable and unstable. Community is about using the power of cooperation to protect itself- if community doesn't protect itself it perhaps loses its mandate.

Paul et Toni,

I'll just quote Paul,
"You don't want to be near a Greek Orthodox Church at Greek Easter, road blocks everywhere. Even the local Catholics get in on the act, parading around the streets on their Saints holy day."

The point of the earlier post was not that Christians may block some streets with a parade, but that some other folk may have forced them to desist.
Trade unions and political activists also hold parades that block streets.

Don't worry Issy, when our merry band of forum "DICTATORS" take control, the only street parades will be the ones run by the RIGHT sort of people.

Issy, you"re up on the local lingo, what is the collective word for the forums collection of dictators. Is it the same as geese, one goose, or a gaggle of gooses!

Communists and Liberals make better dictators than Conservatives as they preach small government.

Paul,

Doing the usual obfuscating squirm won't help, you got it wrong.

//The point of the earlier post was not that Christians may block some streets with a parade, but that some other folk may have forced them to desist.//

Like I said, I've never seen the police telling them to move on.

//Trade unions and political activists also hold parades that block streets.//

They usually don't get moved on either. Maybe all these people are blocking streets with permission from the Man?