Foxy, Please answer which culture is the good and bad? Which cultural education system are you referring too? As you refer to good and bad in every culture? Obviously you cannot think for yourself only copy and paste something you think answers your claim.

Are there cultures that think murdering infidels is a good deed?

Are there cultures that today still stone women found in adultery is good?

Are there cultures that today that believe a brother or father must kill a sister or daughter that marries one not approved by the family?

Josephus,

I can see no point in any further inter-action with you.
You are not interested in discussions but in
attacks. With all due respect, I shall leave you to
it.

Foxy,

The SMH article to which you linked stated that 75% of LGBTi students had reported being bullied of which 8% happened at school.

This would indicate that only 6% of LGBTi students were actually subjected to bullying at school which is no worse than any other student and probably a lot better.

This would indicate that the entire basis of Safe Schools is bogus.

It is obvious that Foxy is not able to define good and bad in every culture; only reject Western democratic Christian values by this statement. "They are in effect defending orthodoxy - by which they mean that "normality" and"decency" is white, Christian, patriarchal, and of
course heterosexual. Anything else to be suggested
appears to them to be a heresy."

So what does she mean is "good and bad" in her value system? We will never know!

Josephus,

You need to go back and look at that statement in
its proper context and try to comprehend the
point that was being made in that instance.

As I stated to you earlier - I have no wish to
argue with you. Nor cop an earful of your beliefs.
You do not know me and therefore are in no position
to judge. The same goes for your inferences about
other cultures or religions - that you know nothing about.
Everything needs to be taken in its proper context.
Fundamentalists and extremists exist in all cultures
and religions - as history has shown us and will
continue to do.

You seem to be hellbent against
Muslims in general and want me to agree with you
that they are bad - that their culture is bad, that their
religion is evil, - and
so on. I do not believe in demonising an entire
group of people because as I said - there are good
and bad people in all walks of life, in all cultures.
in all religions.
There's enough hatred in the world - we don't need
to add to it by finger-pointing to others. Lets
look to fixing our own attitudes. That would be a
good place to start.

If you want to carry on with your own anti-Muslim
slant -
start your own discussion. I'm sure that you will find
enough kindred spirits on this forum.

For me this discussion has run it's course.
If you continue with this one - you shall be arguing
with yourself. I'm not interested in arguing with you.

Foxy-

I agree that Good and Evil are relative and arbitrary but so then so is culture. Culture has a basis in the lives and nature of the culture. When a culture comes in contact with another culture the culture is changed- surely it is the right of those within the culture to decide how much they should allow their culture to change. I could be possible to imagine a culture as "a very long genetic string of variables" including all the complex variables that make up that culture. When genetic strings from different cultures interact there is an averaging of the variables that make up the string. If there are a large number of interactions the cultural attribute is sublimated to the invading string.

Over the last five hundred years capitalism has encouraged freedom of movement of labour (usually from neighbouring nations) for profit. This is an example of the economic warfare against the population. Communism is also an essentially capitalist system without the free market. Anarchists in theory could also in theory support cultures but in practice don't.

The thing that Foxy doesn't seem to understand that culture is rightly or wrongly indoctrination- what is right and wrong is not universal it is relative- this is Cultural Relativism which is apparently widely acknowledged by anthropologists. If a person is born within a culture and have lived with these beliefs they will continue to have these beliefs even if they move to live with another culture. Yes the people are not bad in an absolute sense (there is no absolute bad)- but they change the new culture. Objectively some changes are good and some are bad- so some cultures are good and some bad for the host culture