Foxy yes both posts true look my party still has the word socialist in its name
Others will jump on that but a truth will see we can not be the party of our birth
Voters are subject to never ending propaganda, the very word is seen as a threat
And enough voters think that way to keep it that way
You have the formation of the Liberal party right, spot on in fact
For 23 years it was the party of choice, different days very different
Better days however, Labor wallowed in self destructive internal war and right up to 1975 some unions had communist leadership
A search in to Menzies industrial relations laws and views would find him left of even today,s Labor party
A day will come, after reform, that a small l Liberal party may retake land/policy it ceded to Labor
Unless Labor continues to reform its self, no party can stand still, the march with the voters or die

Dear Belly,

I'll repeat what I've said in the past - we live in
a culture where people's opinions, views and
assessments of situations spill across social media,
a lot of it anonymously. When making judgements
and drawing conclusions it becomes important to know the
difference between facts and opinions. However, we can
see that Marxism will continue to be a powerful totem
of evil in 2019 - cultural relativism, political
correctness, ideological warfare, demonisation of
traditional values, these are the true imagined nemeses
of the modern arch-conservative. And, this is not about
to change anytime soon. However, all that we can hope for
is that the majority of Australians will get it right in
the end - and changes will eventuate for the better.
For the nation, and for us all. The political parties
will also have to listen and act on the issues that concern
voters. If they don't their parties will wither and die.

Foxy wrote: “However, we can see that Marxism will continue to be a powerful totem of evil in 2019 - cultural relativism, political correctness, ideological warfare, demonisation of traditional values …”

Marx absorbed some traditional values. He definitely was against cultural relativism. Hegel saw history as a progression of various societies toward an ideal. His ideal was the Prussian state. Marx, a Hegelian, also saw history as a progression of various societies toward an ideal. His ideal was the classless society and Marx saw societies as more or less worthy according to what he saw as the progress toward that ideal. Thus Marx could favour Turkey over Greece, Poland over Russia and make other judgments on the basis of what he saw as their social progress.

Although Marx had Jewish ancestry he knew little of Jewish culture or religion. He was converted to Lutheranism at the age of six when his father converted and absorbed Luther’s Jew hatred. He wrote “On the Jewish Question”

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/
It concludes:

“Once society has succeeded in abolishing the empirical essence of Judaism – huckstering and its preconditions – the Jew will have become impossible, because his consciousness no longer has an object, because the subjective basis of Judaism, practical need, has been humanized, and because the conflict between man’s individual-sensuous existence and his species-existence has been abolished.

The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism.”

The above is not politically correct and something many Jew haters would not find objectionable. However, Jew hatred is a traditional value.

Dear David F.,

I knew that Karl Marx although baptised into the
Lutheran Church was of Jewish descent, with
both his maternal and paternal grandfathers having
been Rabbis.

I was also aware that a number of scholars and
commentators regard Marx's work, "On The Jewish
Question" ("Zur Judenfrage") as antiSemitic.

However I thought that his work was primarily a
critique of liberal rights, rather than a
criticism of Judaism and that the critique
should be read in that context.

Orthodox British Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, Chief Rabbi
of the United Hebrew Congregation of the Commonwealth
from 1991 to 2013 regards the application of the
term "antiSemitism" to Marx as an anachronism
because when Marx wrote "On the Jewish Question"
virtually all major philosophers had expressed similar
views and the word "antiSemitism" had not yet been
coined, let alone developed a racial component, and
little awareness existed in the depths of European
prejudice against Jews. Sacks feels that Marx thus
simply expressed the commonplace thinking of his era.

Foxy if we wait every thing can change
The election of a Labor government here will be an improvement
Much of what you said is quite true in truth some conservatives do not even know they are being used
Should they ever get the world they want some of them will soon find them selves living in the slums the push us toward

Dear Belly,

Like you, I also am optimistic about our future.
We've discussed some of our unresolved problems
that face us on this forum. From addressing
Indigenous disadvantage, dealing with water
shortages, drought, population size, energy,
and so on. We have to deal with these to move
forward to a free, fair, and vibrant society.
I have no doubt we can find the solutions that
suit us, provided as others have pointed out we
don't succumb to the siren calls of demagogues,
charlatans and ideologues.