Hasbeen I unlike you, want constant improvement from my party
Again unlike you, at times like this I publicly name filth from my party
IF you did that, unthinkable from you
Your party may benefit from understanding some things are harming it

"Consider what you gain by ignoring Dutton,s crime against your party"

My party? Which is my party? I assume you mean the Libs since, in your binary thinking, if I don't support Labs idiocy I must support the Libs. Right? Well no, wrong. I'd explain how its possible to support different groups at different times for different reasons, but it'd go over your head. But in my life I've voted Lab more than I've voted Lib.

"Trump in Europe is a joke."

Well lucky he's not running for office there then.

"Neither will survive!"
Yes we are about to elect this man... http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=oLwCyn1nOP0

"I Agree With PM, But I Don’t Know What She Said". A man of convictions? Talk about a laughing stock.

mhaze like Hasbeen you give all the evidence I need to prove you are blind
Filth Eddy Obead remember him'it? I loudly told a truth
My party KNEW about him, and the vermin who worked with him
SOME wanted him gone
A ratbag law, party law, that should be removed PROTECTED HIM
You can not cross the floor and retain your pre-selection in my party.
UNLIKE YOU or your party I demand constant improvement from mine
Nothing but constant renewal and improvement will do
Your stance those like you is sucking the life out of the three party owning your party one being YOUR lost conservatives
Election day, the day Labor was justly thrown out I voted independent and drove around booths not manned by my fellow travelers for the first time in decades

Belly you just can't get it can you.

Many of us don't have a party, never have, & never will.

Until Shortens stupid speech at the conference I did not know who I would vote for, but it sure wasn't going to be liberal. I still don't but I do know now, it most certainly wont be his Labor party.

I still doubt I will be able to bring myself to vote for a party infected with so much of Turnbulls garbage policies & supporters, so I am going to have to do a lot of research before deciding to vote for someone or informal.

We need to go back to first past the post, or at least allow us to terminate our preferences. I don't want my vote to go to Labor after shortens speech, but I equally don't want it to go to the Libs.

Currently it will end up with one of these, when I don't want to vote for either. I will probably vote informal in the house, & make damn sure none of my Senate preferences filter down to either major.

I normally want a government able to implement it's policies fully, but I now think Labors policies are so bad, I would prefer a hung parliament.

At the same time I am having trouble figuring just what the Libs policies are. I doubt they actually know what they are themselves, or realise they are so unpopular that expressing them would cost them votes. Well I can assure them, not expressing them clearly is costing them heaps.

So mate, please drop this "your party" bit. Most of us are not one eyed.

Belly,

Your reading skills are truly pathetic. I explain that I am no supporter of the current Liberal leadership positions and you go right on explaining to me about the failures of my party.

I guess if one cannot string a cogent argument together, one needs to reduce everything to goodies and baddies. Count me out.

Was Peter Dutton Wise?

Answer1- I don't know- it's always risky to make public comments- but no risk no gain.

Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 5:45:31 AM
You can not cross the floor and retain your pre-selection in my party.
UNLIKE YOU or your party I demand constant improvement from mine
Nothing but constant renewal and improvement will do

Answer2- Yes but the Labor Party is a "Classical Social Liberalist" party and so believes in change- hence the "constant renewal". Peter Dutton is a Conservative within the Liberal Party (Economically Liberalist)- Conservatives don't believe in change.

Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 5:58:41 AM
I believe a Country needs strong leaders who can act without fear or favour and demonstrate by their wisdom they have benefitted the people and Nation.

Answer3- I agree.

Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 4:14:17 PM
It is not us welded on supporters who will say who wins the election
It is those Howard and Menzies, Whitlam and Hawk, Rudd too bought (the middle) with them

Answer4-

Yes the middle is critical but the majors have colluded to disenfranchise them (on immigration and globalisation at least- and probably on other conservative issues).

The Conservatives appear (as others have said on OLO) to have sat on their hands for many years trying to quietly make a difference while the country has become more frigheningly Liberalist. Given this I can understand Dutton's and Australia's frustration and consider that Dutton's comments to be very moderate in this context.

The middle is critical but they don't understand who the Conservative Traditionalists are. Ironically Conservatives need to learn propaganda from the Communists and other Liberalists. Conservatives as Dutton rightly said in his "spray" need to speak in terms of "sound bites" not "2000 word essays".