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Politics and Trains

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Sylvia Else fast passenger trains also see,s faster freight train
We will see both, nothing stays the same forever
I once parked the company car in a city with free parking and got the train to Sydney
To avoid city parking costs more than the return train fare
Faster trains will generate more passengers
Posted by Belly, Monday, 10 December 2018 3:41:41 PM
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//The NSW government has announced its 25 year vision for high speed regional rail.//

With Constance as transport minister? I wouldn't hold your breath, the man is hopelessly incompetent. I could almost put up with another 4 years of Liberals, as long as they promised to do a reshuffle and ditch the useless pillock.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 10 December 2018 5:21:02 PM
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In 1995 I traveled from Sydney to Canberra on an X2000 Tilt Train, loaned from Sweden. It was very comfortable, but NSW never bought any. http://www.tomw.net.au/atmttrn1.html

The NSW government's vision for high speed regional rail looks realistically modest. They are talking about higher speed, with improved track on existing alignments, rather than just promises of bullet trains.

The NSW XPT is based on the British InterCity 125 "High Speed Train". The last of these are being replaced in the UK with the "Hitachi Super Express", with electric and bi-mode models. The latter might be of use for NSW, where the train could run on electric power in the Sydney region and then switch to diesel in country NSW. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_802
Posted by tomw, Monday, 10 December 2018 5:56:50 PM
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Again I can't agree.

The money spent on roads is way over returned to government in the form of fuel taxes, excise & GST. The fact is government make a huge profit on every road journey. Subsidies wasted on any form of public transport have to come directly out of tax payers pockets.

Public transport is always most unevenly distributed. CBD workers get the bulk of the money spent on them, where country town residents see not a penny, but they still keep paying. Yet another transfer from the have nots to the have too much.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 10 December 2018 6:12:51 PM
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Hasbeen just maybe you are overlooking the very real benefits freight trains are
We seem not to have any passenger only rail lines
In fact fast trains and freight, seem more than likely in our near future because of those benefits
I do not fear cheap fares or none at all for pensioners, for some it helps them continuing to live in the real bush
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 4:42:16 AM
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What most people don't realise is that the price of train tickets in the cities only covers about 40% of the cost of running the trains. In the cities, the alternatives to the buses and trains would be vastly increased road infrastructure which would be even more expensive to build. However, in the countryside the roads are lightly used, most trains are nearly empty, and there is little to no justification for this expensive hardware other than as Labor vanity projects fired by collectivist ideals.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 11 December 2018 7:43:37 AM
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