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New UN agreement - Absolutely scary

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Philip S.,

I've been reading all of your posts and can
see just how emotional this all is for you.
However, you need to be re-assured that
Australia will not sign any agreement that
forces us to go against our interests.
Or is to our detriment.
No government of ours would give up our
sovereignty or sign something that would
place our security in danger. No government
would be foolish enough to do that. If they
did they would not be in government for very
long.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 November 2018 3:03:40 PM
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Foxy, I have come late to this discussion, but one of your first posts
stated that our immigration process means we check each applicant.
You did not seem to realise that the immigration document has a policy
statement that immigration is a human right.
There is no indication that that "human right" is any different to any
other human rights in its enforcement.
In a less wordy way, it means those wanting to immigrate may do so to
any country of their choosing.

Other human rights administered by the UNHCR are also not enforceable.
Other countries that ignore the human rights agreement that most
countries have signed have signed their own Islamic Human Rights document.

BTW there are two documents up for signing. The one that is being
discussed here is the immigration policy and the other one is on
refugee policy. I have not read that one so do not know anything
about it.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 18 November 2018 4:42:01 PM
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Bazz.

As I understand it - they're not expecting the US,
Australia, and some others to sign the document in
question. And human rights or not - I still don't
expect that we will. As Dutton made quite clear -
we shall not be giving up our sovereignty.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 November 2018 4:58:13 PM
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UN declarations are ambits . “everyone has the right to education”.
Yes which means that there is regulation of it . No-one expects that a country has to give 6 years medical education to any illiterate alcoholic blind quadraplegic. Same with right to migrate using amphibious missile assault boats to crash the border.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 18 November 2018 5:08:59 PM
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Bazz Thanks I missed the comment by Foxy.

Foxy Quote "We have an Immigration Department that decides on who comes here. It has criteria that must be met. They decide who and how many. It has always been that way."

Are you off your medication, TOTAL BS, if you are right please explain the over 50,000 that Rudd and Gillard let in?

Also remember only a small percentage of those arrivals were checked out properly.

Immigration had no say in there arrival.

Also the Government you have today may not be the one you have next time.

Are you absolutely sure Shorten will continue boat turn backs?
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 18 November 2018 5:19:38 PM
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Philip S.,

Australia has very strigent rules for any
one entering our territory without a visa for
example - they are placed in a holding facility
while security and health checks are performed.
Not sure where you get your numbers from but
during 2015-2016 - we took in 17,555. And as
I wrote earlier - it was a government decision
to do so.

As for what Mr Shorten will do should he get into
government? As far as I'm aware - Labor's policies
are very similar to the current government. After
all it was thanks to Kevin Rudd - who made sure
that anyone coming to Australia by boat would not
be allowed to settle in Australia. Still, I guess
we shall have to wait and see - predicting anything
in politics is risky at the best of times. Who knows
Scott Morrison may just win.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 18 November 2018 5:46:16 PM
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