Much of what is condemned as leftist these days was in fact the policies Sir Robert Menzies based his then new party the Liberal party on.
Research find his policies, tell me! if you can prove me wrong.
He, others such as Fraser, held far different views than todays party.
A party that not walked away from its true base but galloped.
think with me here, today we learned 59 percent of American women voted Democrat.
In my view a sure sign men in suits are not forever going to get away with marginalising even their own base and women.

Belly, you have to know one very glaring fact about the American voters.
They actually don't have to vote.
Where-as we in Australia, HAVE TO VOTE, by law, yes it is ILLEGAL not to vote.
In America if people are dis-interested or lazy or just can't be bothered, they don't have to vote.
So if there are enough people keen to make a point they will vote.
So American vote results are moot, or to put it another way, a waste of time.
Unless everyone votes, you will NEVER get the true sentiment of the people, or the country.
So the fact that one group of people, say, the 'me too' rabble, can spread their filth and lies across the whole country and rally their scum bag vermin, to vote a certain way and voila', 'we have a wiener'.
And so it is we can never trust the American political circus.

ALTRAV, about a week ago, in a post I thought was insane, you lost me forever.
Do you think I need you to tell me about compulsory voting v non compulsory?
Are you desperately TRUMP LIKE searching for reason to make Democrats victory look like a loss.

make Democrats victory look like a loss.
Belly,
I'm certain it will turn out to be a loss. Why, because I could see that to be the case for decades now everytime the left gained power.

From “Ignorance” by Robert Graef:

Conservatives have been have been more active in censoring textbooks than liberals [‘liberal’ in the American sense], while liberals have been more active in injecting controversial content. The Right tends to be more reactive since it holds to positions with greater certitude than the Left. The Right operates as though it has found its balance, while the Left is perpetually in search of a better balance. From a student’s viewpoint, the Right enjoys an illusion of philosophical tidiness as though it is a party of pathological neat freaks, an organizational plus that, before Trump, benefitted party discipline more than society or the nation. Viewed from the same distance, liberals appear to be in bed with every disaffected group that society has to offer, including Bernie Sanders’ Democratic socialism, which wrongly suggests that the Left has no identifiable philosophical center. When done right, education avoids the extremes of political zealots, allowing unbiased argument tp guide students to consider all facts, circumstances and off-setting influences of Right and Left. This level of classroom openness can and does upset partisan parents.

I offer this warning,not born in my failure to understand.
And not born from a blind ability to follow anyone based on words that are clearly untrue.
The Trump right, the Right currently controlling our federal government are a bigger threat to Democracy that any left ever was or ever will be.
Thatin an effort to fend of a left that does not exist supporters of that right harm us all.