As Trump tells a meeting of his supporters he has sent the army to stop an invasion the supporters mindlessly chant USA USA in a rapture.
That army is to stop would be migrants still,one thousand miles from the American boarder.
Trump has managed to find/invent? middle eastern terrorists and South American gang members in that marching line.
His supporters continue to chant USA and the world is asking what that country has to be proud about
God save America,,please?

No Belly the rapture is when they rise through the air singing "swing low sweet chariot comin' for to carry me home". The pilgrims are the saints come marchin' in and will dance and chant around old Dixie.

Dear Nick,

Not all the Saints feel like dancing in today's
America.

Dear Belly,

The latest news that I heard this morning is that President
Trump plans to sign an "Executive Order," banning all those
born in the US of non-citizen parents to not be granted
American Citizenship. I'm not sure if he can legally do
this - and what the legalities are for something that has been
the case for so long. Not sure what's in their Constitution
(if anything) regarding this and whether Congress has to
approve such a move. Does the US President really have unlimited
power? If he does - then can America really be called a
democracy? So many questions come to mind.

Not sure if America has ever had a President like this one
previously - and will the voters re-elect him? Home of the
free and the brave? Not today by the look of things.

It needs 2/3 vote to change the Constitution. Bolton said, “The international left cannot stand the American Constitution which keeps us from sliding into the international swamp .” Dear Donald has drained the Obama swamp and will re-fill it with his own water , the Trump Tower and Swamp.

I will post more about the gullible American voters, but first midterms
The senate would take more than a miracle to fall to the Democrats, about 26 of them are defending seats they won six years ago, in what is Trump country now.
The congress is hard but looks near sure, to be a Democrat victory.
However at what cost, an even more divided country for one.
Trump will find fuel for his rants about the swamp and such, here is how the gullible voter returns
The red neck brigade will claim unfair and the division will be even more of a problem

I have to agree with you Belly, that the American voters were gullible. Any group of people who could re-elect a clown like Obama, after seeing him in action for 4 years, are obviously very foolish.

Any group who could even consider voting for Hillary are obviously not only gullible but pretty stupid.

That they have finally come to their senses & have voted in a president who actually cares for his citizens, & will defend the boarders is really great.

I'm pleased that Donald Trump is going to put the military to a useful and necessary task for America, rather than sending them to foreign sh-tholes, as he so rightly calls them.

OLO seems to be suffering from Gullible Belly lately, hope it's not as bad as Delhi Belly.

see the newspoll results for the union backed labour party here in Aussie and you know what is real gullibility. I am sure you are just trying to get a laugh Belly.

Thank to all three, not having to goggle to find gullible people helps.
As they blindly shout USA USA Trumps modern day hood winked crowds mimic Hitler.
As sending troops to the boarder a month before the refugees get there is an election stunt.
United no more America is killing other Americans and claiming it is in the name of Trump.
His fall, it will come, will be regarded as a conspiracy by those serving his destruction of unity in that country

Belly,

"As they blindly shout USA USA Trumps modern day hood winked crowds mimic Hitler"

When did Hitler shout "USA, USA"?

Belly you are a gross insult to families of people killed in the holocaust. You should be ashamed. The closet thing to the holocaust in America is denying biology, changing baby name to fetus and then murdering them by the millions. Exactly the tactics of the nazis.

When posting a thread like this, for me at least, it is not about taunting those with other views.
And not demanding only my views are seen.
See I am on record here in this place, saying the Democrats did not deserve to win, even if they got more votes than Trump.
America, long before Trump, struggles with an electoral system that is just weird.
It too votes for personality not policy.
Some even want celebritys to run for the top job.
It is my honestly held view Americans are so out of touch with politics, and out comes of trade wars it proposes, it will not remain the worlds top economy.
And once it falls will never regain that roll.
Maybe I am wrong, but bet your last dollar Trump supporters here and there, never let that thought enter their heads

//That they have finally come to their senses & have voted in a president who actually cares for his citizens//

Well, all the citizens named Donald Trump who live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C., at any rate.

When did Hitler shout USA?
"In 1928, Hitler remarked, approvingly, that white settlers in America had “gunned down the millions of redskins to a few hundred thousand.” When he spoke of Lebensraum, the German drive for “living space” in Eastern Europe, he often had America in mind.

J Whitman methodically explores how the Nazis took inspiration from American racism of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. He notes that, in “Mein Kampf,” Hitler praises America as the one state that has made progress toward a primarily racial conception of citizenship, by “excluding certain races from naturalization.” "
New Yorker.

When people start using any of these three words: Hitler, Nazi, racist, you know it's time to now out. You are never going to get any sense out of them.

Bow out, not now out. Tablets with 'predictive text' are a real pain.

No sense out of them? The New Yorker is read nationwide, with 53 percent of its circulation in the top 10 U.S. metropolitan areas. According to Mediamark Research Inc., the average household income of The New Yorker readers in 2009 was $109,877 . peanuts.

I constantly, ask questions of my self, some here never do.
The insults hurled at me here, if from well balanced well thought out opinions, of well balanced people would be a concern.
I see no reason to be even a little concerned
America voted for a man who is little more than a movies sets false front on one of those western bars, he never existed.
Voters, to disconnected to even try to understand, put reasons they like him, that even he never truly supported or held.
A second generation German migrant, he tells us there are good people, *on both sires* when talking of extreme right running down a crowd of protesters.
Says he will drain the swamp, but makes it even deeper.
KKK sing his praises, and he likes them coming to his meetings
meetings first used as platforms by Hitler, lies too false claims and fears
This horrible anti Jewish murder by a supporter , shames the no longer united states of America
Do not flock to fall at his feet, because questions will be asked of those who fallowed him,humanity is far better than Donald Trumps America

Belly,

You said,
<This horrible anti Jewish murder by a supporter , shames the no longer united states of America
Do not flock to fall at his feet, because questions will be asked of those who fallowed him,humanity is far better than Donald Trumps America>

[suggest you look up 'fallowed', you really should get some form of spell check, your unintentional humour is priceless (if it is unintentional)]

<Among the vitriolic statements is also criticism of President Donald Trump, who Bowers suggested was surrounded by too many Jewish people.
<Trump is surrounded by k---, <things will stay the course,> read one post on Gab, using a derogatory term for Jews.
Roughly four hours before the shooting, Bowers commented in a post that he did not vote for Trump.>

You might find the above quotes from the murderer, Bowers, helpful in your next rant against Trump.

http://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/27/us/pittsburgh-synagogue-active-shooter/index.html

That's a reference, Belly, put there to help you in your search for "TRUTH".

Just got OLOed: Repeated use of [quotation marks] characters is unnecessary. Please remove them to continue

Belly needs more than than a spellcheck. He seems to have dodged all the English lessons when he was at a school, and has made no attempt to educate himself since. He could do with adult remedial classes. Lord knows what other people, if any, he mixes with. Clearly no one who could help him stop embarrassing himself.

Belly can not spell.
He thinks Grammar is some thing you make a pie out of
His words some times wobble and the letters get out of place.
All true, no defense offered
However unlike my detractors I can think, can see what millions around the world are seeing.
In America too.
Unfortunately I can not understand why rednecks exist, how they leap with joy on to the bandwagon of Trump.
Midterms, the world has its fingers crossed,the red necks have the usual facial expression, ears covered eyes closed mouth wide open calling for the rack, even drawn and quartering of any one with that dreadful affliction clarity of thought

That was typical Belly, completely ignoring that his previous remarks about the murderer, Bowers, admiring Trump were completely untrue.

Belly is either very bright, as I suspect, and playing the fool; because no one could be as stupid as he appears to be.

Dear Belly,

There may well be a good reason for President Trump's
at times - irrational behaviour. The following link
explains - and is worth a read:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/01/trump-cog-decline/548759

ise mise you must hear about the living in glass houses fable, you may well have been quite bright, once

'A president could be actively hallucinating, and the medical community could be relegated to speculation from afar.'

thanks Foxy. What is your excuse?

runner,

My excuse is simply being more educated and informed
and simple sloganeering with a religious, left or right
bias no longer holds sway. It seems though the Trump
supports like yourself - are slow to learn this lesson.

//Belly is either very bright, as I suspect, and playing the fool; because no one could be as stupid as he appears to be.//

Yeah, I dunno about that. Ever read ALTRAV's stuff?

'My excuse is simply being more educated and informed'

I call it brainwashed Foxy. Thinking does not seem to be part of your education.

Trump knows the midterms are a week away, he knows the refugees are a month away from the Mexican US boarder.
He told us this day he will send another ten to fifteen thousand troops to the boarder.
He knows [his supporters may not] under USA law those troops can not detain or arrest any of that caravan.
That only existing boarder forces can take action.
3 things are possible, 1 he is feeding his cooks, haters who support him.
Two he believes this act will help him gain votes and hang the moral consequences.
3 after the mid terms, when they arrive, if they arrive, he will ignore the law and send the troops in.
America has gullible people voting to do great harm to their country, letting Trump run free

Foxy please excuse I often forget to remark on posts by you and Paul, others too, but read every post and value them.
Trump may have Dementia,some of his supporters do, it remains true he is not universally loved around the world

Meanwhile, Belly, ignores the posted link that shews that Bowers was as anti-Trump as is Belly.

That was typical Belly, completely ignoring that his previous remarks about the murderer, Bowers, admiring Trump were completely untrue.

'Fess up, Belly.

runner,

Thinking is more than merely re-arranging your
prejudices.

Belly,
So, what would you do about those immigrants lining up in Mexico if you think Trump's so bad ?

individual, maybe install gas chambers? Sir what would YOU do about them?
Could YOU hold one of those children in YOUR arms then set the military on them? WHY?
Gets worse this morning as the Trump campaign looks even more like a Hitler/Gobbles one, purely racist purely hate
To re-enforce my view American voters are gullible Oprah is having an impact on the other side getting voters to just vote.
What a country, what a world
No longer looking for statesmen and women with a plan but actively seeking celebrity to fix things they have no idea about.
Our ageing key board warriors may well be average American voters.
note saw insults from the usual suspects, not interested in verbal combat with any of them, straight set victory's are boring, however ise mise you gave up any right to answers to your silly questions about 40 dummy spits ago.

Belly,

You were wrong about the murderer, Bowers, being a Trump admirer; have the guts to admit that you were wrong.

Were you misled, or did you just make it up to suit your prejudices?

ise miserable, yes if you say so, but it is you who avoid the truth like you are stepping around cattle dung in a sale yard.
He seems not to have been a Trump supporter.
You however are, and you walk around the pipe bomber, and many others, who tell us they are.
You not me, try to take the focus off the very real truth.
Trump, at best, is a bigoted racist.
Fueled by other bigots who, like him, see only what they want to see.
What would YOU do with the caravan of refugees?
Finally it is Trump who fuels hate racism and blindness in America,mass shootings are as American as mums apple pie

Belly,

"ise miserable, yes if you say so, but it is you who avoid the truth like you are stepping around cattle dung in a sale yard.
He seems not to have been a Trump supporter.
You however are, and you walk around the pipe bomber, and many others, who tell us they are"

I don't say so, others do, those not avoiding the truth.

I'm not a Trump supporter although I did predict his election to the Presidency and I do watch his progress with some glee.

What would I do with the caravan?
Stop it at the border and let Mexico solve the problem; they are part of the problem anyway.

Belly,

You are the only one talking about Hitler and gas chambers. You are a sick puppy.

Under American law the president is entitled to use the military where there is a law and order issue that local law enforcement cannot cope with, and 5000 to 10 000 illegal immigrants that intend to storm the border and swamp the border controls as they did in Mexico is just that situation. No one is stupid enough to suggest that they are going to shoot anyone, rather arrest them and detain or deport them. Given the number sending them there the day before with no planning would also be idiotic.

Letting them through would be tantamount to opening the borders just as the moronic labor government did here.

The caravan has shrunk from 7,000 people to less than
3,500 and is still weeks away from reaching the United
States. Usually if necessary the National Guard is
called in to handle security problems that occur within
the states and not the military. The question needs to be
asked - is the US President using the military in this case
for political gain, with the mid-term elections
on the horizon?

Another point regarding the Labor government - and "stopping
the boats," needs further analysis.

The link given below explains that - the federal government's
claim that it "stopped the boats," has been called into
doubt by analysis showing asylum seeker arrivals slowed
dramatically after the former Labor government toughened its
border stance, suggesting the Coalition "vastly overrated"
its contribution.

The analysis, by former Immigration Dept. Chief John Menadue
and Australian National University migration expert Peter
Hughes, shows the drop off began immediately after former
PM Kevin Rudd announced in mid 2013 that asylum seekers who
arrived on unauthorised boats would never be resettled in
Australia.

When PM Tony Abbott took power a few months later the flow
of maritime arrivals was well on its way to being finished as a
result of measures already taken by Labor, the analysis said,
adding the Coalition's role, "was at the margins and vastly
overrated."

The following link is worth a read and gives more information:

http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/did-tony-abbott-stop-the-boats-new-analysis-casts-doubt-on-claims-20150924-gitwfo.html

My apologies for the typo. Here's the link again:

http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/did-tony-abbott-stop-the-boats-new-analysis-casts-doubt-on-claims-20150924-gjtwfo.html

'When PM Tony Abbott took power a few months later the flow
of maritime arrivals was well on its way to being finished as a
result of measures already taken by Labor, the analysis said,
adding the Coalition's role, "was at the margins and vastly
overrated."'

Oh Foxy so the calls by the abc and other swamp outlets calling Tony Abbott bigotted, racist and uncompassionate should of been directed to Rudd/Gillard! It was these 'bigots' who really stopped the boats. I seem to remember you were one of those accusers.

Belly,
Seeing that you don't have an idea as to what should be done instead of what Trump is doing, you throw a pointless question back.
I would offer each 18 year old & over to volunteer for sterilisation & those forced to have children should have abortion available & then let them in. Those who object will not be allowed in. If these people can't feed themselves then should not bring more children into the miserable life they're incapable of doing anything about & instead just overrun countries whose citizens are committed to working for a better Nation. Same goes for the middle east. What makes the do-gooders believe that simply breeding will somehow provide a better future ?
Trump should upstage the UN & force them to invade those countries with refugee production & help rebuild them. If this is not accepted then simply leave them to their own stupidity & fate.

You can not defend a view Trump is not using Hitler like, fear, lies hate, and harvesting bigots on his side.
Sick puppy? what then are you if I am right?
Had Obama said he had a kind of love for the leader of North Korea,found it hard to say Putin did any thing wrong.
Fell at the feet of his sons murderous mate the Saudi Arabian prince?
My detractors would tell a very different story.
America voters have been hood winked midterms may fix some of that

runner,

There's your opinion - and then there is the analysis
done by former Immigration Dept. Chief John Menadue
and Australian National University migration expert
Peter Hughes. If you have evidence to disprove their
analysis - kindly present it. Personal attcks on me have
no bearing in this matter.

Belly,
Fine, but what would you have Trump doing differently regarding the so-called refugees flooding via Mexico ?

Foxy,

"Usually if necessary the National Guard is
called in to handle security problems that occur within
the states and not the military. "

The caravan is a National problem, not a State one, so the use of the
US Army is appropriate.

Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 limits the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. The act only specifically applies to the United States Army and Air Force and does not explicitly mention the United States Navy due to water levels. the President gets 2 years jail for sending in gunmen without Congress voting.

the President gets 2 years jail for sending in gunmen without Congress voting.
nicknamenick,
Ok, so let's instead give Congress two years jail for their failure to contain the influx of refugees if they don't want to take positive action because of a formality.
We've changed everything else to suit the times but we still hang onto unworkable old policies.
Pretty stupid I'd say !
I mean, what exactly is the big deal with using the armed forces to defend your country ?

Law is a system of rules that are created and enforced through social or governmental institutions to regulate behavior.

Australia, officially the Commonwealth of Australia is a sovereign country comprising the mainland of the Australian continent, the island of Tasmania and numerous smaller islands.The neighbouring countries are Papua New Guinea, Indonesia and East Timor to the north; the Solomon Islands and Vanuatu to the north-east; and New Zealand to the south-east.

Trumps America, his supporters trample their biggest enemy under foot, they murder truth.
The Mexican boarder is not made of fluff.
Mexicans have crossed it for a century, and *been employed* as cheap labour by American farmers.
In fact whole crops need that cheap labour [wetbacks is their name]
Trump, Tramp and lie teller that his is, has highlighted a South American caravan.
Of refugees
It is a thousand miles from his boarder.
May never get there,he lies to? recruit hate!
They are not middle easterners, *they arrive by plane and boat* they are not South American criminal gangs,
Filth that they are they are not in that caravan.
These modern day Jews, for that is how Trump treats them, may be unwelcome in America, probably as I have said in other threads, will be stopped world wide.
But they are a tool for a man who is Hitler like, and has lies and hate in his tool bag

Hey Belly,

A bit of some light relief ...

A crossword puzzle clue - made up of three letters.

The clue is: One craps, while other clap.

The Answer is:

USA.

RNK

Like that Foxy, deadly silence from the Trump,camp

Hi Belly,

No surprises there. The US President will continue
to crap, and his supporters will continue to clap.
That's America - only not so great anymore.

Like that too Foxy he is in a race around the country trying to get his side out to vote. and the coin is still in the air about the results
Gerrymanders in some states are helping him.
We will see things get much worse as he becomes even more unhinged after the midterms
No matter the out come

Did we see it? the lunatic comment in another thread, unhappy the pipe bombs did not get to those they had been sent to?
I FEAR for our online home.
Such a lunatic, such a comment,may if noted do great harm.
Fueled by blind support of Trump.
A BLINDNESS THAT SAYS IT IS OK TO HATE
In just days the votes will be in, hate will win, oh the Democrats may take the lower house.
But hate will win, it is now OK to hate,to consider killing the other side, to wish pipe bombs reached their target!
Show me please how even a blue wave can stop the hate, re-unite America
But know no matter who wins Trump will be even more manic what ever the result

A BLINDNESS THAT SAYS IT IS OK TO HATE
Belly,
Take heed of your own words.

governmental institutions to regulate behavior.
nicknamenick,
you mean to regulate your own people but not those who force themselves into the Nation the settlers built ?

individual what drives you? did you read that post
Do YOU think the pipe bombs should have gone of? killing those they had been sent to
is there any thing in you that thinks that is OK.
As this world gets even more disconnected to politics, understanding the subject, stops getting closer to the right wing dictatorship we are headed for
YOU highlight the name of this thread is far from only Americans who fit the description.

Individual,

You elect the Government to represent you.
If they're not doing that, then do
something about it. Call your elected
representative, demand change, keep the
pressure up, talk about it everywhere.

Foxy,
i didn't elect this Govt but I do prefer it to a Labor one.

Individual,

Fair enough.

At least in this country we do get the chance
to vote.

Yes been giving big thought to my posts, my refusal to take trolling from just a few.
Even told myself for about the 100th time replying to them is not worth it and only brings me down to their level.
That post, the one saying it is a shame the pipe bombs did not go off, kill those they had been meant for.
Now it came to me, in all probability that poster thinks like that.
Too that on my side and the other side of the debate we are having here, both sides think they are right.
Based on what may well be a planed move toward one world one people being pushed on us all, fear of, even hatred of, migrants and refugees has become insane hate.
Surely a middle path is the only thing worth fighting for, a better caring sharing humanity not one calling for an act of terrorism in no way different than any ISIS ever did?
post the midterms hate wins, as Trump either screams about victory or lies about conspiracy.

"you mean to regulate your own people but not those who force themselves into the Nation the settlers built ?"
No individual those are your words. You may have noticed that US has several people in the Police force from a few years back. I think Aust also has some police ( in most states) . They regulate parking on double lines and stuff.

First headline this morning, American Trump supporters are on the way to the Mexican boarder in answer to the sad fools call to stand guard against that caravan.
It will, if it ever does, not reach the border for just over three weeks.
But the midterms are tomorrow our time.
Trump if I was a Christian, may be riding one of those three horses,
He is riding a world wide rejection of open borders refugee flows, migration, that I fear is in its infancy.
May even be planned, to throw us in to disarray and make a different kind of government, when it comes, look good.
American voters are gullible, so are the rest of us, some more than others.
The world rips its guts out with wars mass murdering civilians and innocents, in the name oil oil and power, no other reason
And our reaction is to hate the victims.
South America is a basket case, thieving Dictators killing, even starving their own, and our reaction? hate the victims
Or? be upset those pipe bombs did not arrive and murder the other sides people

Belly,
It's no different here, the more greedy keep fleecing the less greedy & opportunism is deemed good

"President Donald Trump implied potential use of the Monroe doctrine in August 2017 when he mentioned the possibility of military intervention in Venezuela, after his CIA Director Mike Pompeo declared that the nation's deterioration was the result of interference from Iranian- and Russian-backed groups."

The middle east IS missile criminals in the caravan are invading Washington's domain of south America. Ukraine is Putin's smokescreen and vigilantes are the last line of defense against Cuban and Chinese gunboats.

WE AGREE INDIVIDUAL,
Trump is even putting the fear of God in some of his own party, as he rants his way around America peddling hate and division.
Wednesday or Thursday before we see the count, but he will still be peddling hate long after that

What we need is a World Forum where the leaders are exposed & put on the spot with nowhere to run so the whole world can see the kind of gits their top bureaucrats really are & how difficult it is to juggle things between them & the dishonest gits in the media.
People would find that it's not the leaders who are incompetent but the bureaucrats are.

AGAIN! well said indy, agree, we thought that was what the UN was for but look how it turned out.
Wednesday of Thursday we will find out who won the mid terms.
We know the Senate may see an increase in Republican numbers.
Congress should go to the Democrats.
But remember even on the day the election was held they said Trump could not win.
Hate will win.
It has to, in a no longer United States hate will continue.
If fact get worse, IF your idea was in fact possible, both sides could sit down and talk.
Hopefully come up with the only path that can unite the country,a middle path
Right now the world needs a Malaysian solution, an answer to mass migration and refugees, the problem will grow,hugely.
And be powered by hate, division, that middle path is our best chance

Trump will serve a second term, and that's for sure.

A considered thought ise mise, based on what?
Today, tomorrow in fact our time, America will vote, Thursday we will begin to see who won.
This time the ticker tape and ribbons will not be the only things littering Americas streets.
Hate will be knee deep, Trump farmed it formed it spread it.
How can America ever be united again.
Will the winners be able to bring it back together
Will those who lost want to
What in the end is the benefit in dividing that country? in making hate a tool for elections?

Hate will be knee deep, Trump farmed it formed it spread it.
Belly,
Wrong,wrong & wrong again ! His opponents are the hate farmers & distributors. The Democrats have the hate franchise.

I hate Poland and its vicious abuse of proud coal miners in Germany.

indy so its the democrats, half of that country, who hate the other half?
Tell me what do you base that one what research
What reading,who of them is calling the troops in against unarmed refugees who may never even reach the border.

"Tell me what do you base that one what research"

Belly calling for research---joke or the week!!

Belly,
If you can claim to be in possession of at least one ounce of integrity then you shouldn't have any difficulty in seeing the Left's vindictiveness in every comment from the Left.

individual a truth! if I thought as you do I would welcome death.
Every bit of me tells me you can not support your view with reason
I even nearly asked are you from America but something tells me you are from our deep north.
So old mate put me in the dreadful lefty box,no truth in it but none is needed for the lost right
About 11 am eastern daylight saving time tomorrow the vote counting will begin
The winner will be division and hate

Belly,

"A considered thought ise mise, based on what?"

A study of American politics, especially the lowness to which the Democrats have sunk.
Trump is seen as a man of action, especially by those who have recently got a job again.

Belly,
With all due respect I'm not the one placing you into this "left box", you're doing that at just about every turn.
And no, I'm not from America I'm from Europe which I left as soon as I realised where things were heading there with the influx of "guest workers".
I have lived here in the North for most of my life, because Sydney, Canberra, the Gold Coast & even Cairns hold nothing of interest for me. Too many sheeple for my taste. Out here in the remote communities people have managed to remain individuals just like I.
We can have robust debates without this idiotic PC & do-gooders usually depart without having to be asked.
I quite like the sensibility of conservative citizens at barbeques etc.

The winner will be division and hate
Belly,
No, if the insipds win then hate wins, if the realistics win the insipids will add rocket fuel to their hate campaigns.

ise mise indy and me, three thoughts three sets of opinions, mine are based on a nerdish wish to do what I never did at school learn.
I consum the words from both sides.
Have been up already[ old age and sleeplessness go together] watching the live news from the USA.
While reading,not as many as usual, my stable of press pages
Lets agree, we have different views, the gap between us is as wide as the Pacific Ocean.
I struggle not to think you two are not from say Tennessee, you find me Democrat like, but you find the Democrats something they, in my view, are not.
HATE? surely you do not think it will die today?
That who ever wins can re-unite America?
Not Russians by any chance?
NO not a silly question Putin had a huge win when Trump entered the white house.
Macas will need a bigger delivery truck this morning, just to feed the Don as he madly twitters his hate, pride in a win, or conspiracies about deep states involvement, it must cheer him no end that he has a few million like you who almost do not need his rants to believe in him.

Most Australians vote for US candidates , Belly is a campaign organiser . How about asking them can our votes be counted as partial preferences , say at 10% value of stateside yanks?

Belly,
i'm starting to think that you have no concept og hate. Why else would you constantly spread it ?

indy ten minutes ago on live TV from the USA a man ,about the same age as his IQ 60,ish, said he would take a grenade for Trump
Gullible? sure, but not the brightest bloke around too
My bet in the cup got knocked out of it near the start.
Wish I could get on hate winning today, a sure bet more hate, less thought

Early counting seems to see an increase in the Senate for Republicans, always looked to be the result.
Democrats will win control in the lower house, too always seemed the likely out come.
But no blue wave, both sides got their voters out.
out come? a more divided America and if some one can explain why that is good I would like to know

I have some interesting figures, based on reports from the American Public Broadcaster as seen on SBS
Between 3.30 and now 4.29 Wednesday.
59 percent of women voted Democrat, had only white males been able to vote the country would be over welmining Republican.
While this thread may have run its race, we will talk about some thing like this for the next two years
Questions, can Trump turn from full on attack to dealing with Congress.
Who will he remove from the white house, it maybe a few.
Can America, now so badly divided,come together or will the division get worse
PS how long will it be before Trumps tax records become the focus
thanks to all contributors

All threads come to an end, in fact I noted twice in my view this one had run its race.
But just need to say a few things
Trumps explosion at that press conference, his claiming victory from a loss
His threats against the new Congress that will not even be sworn in until next year.
The success he has in using race hate
YES my view will confront/offend/ ever enrage some
But itis my view this man,his supporters,are the biggest threat to Democracy we ever had, include COMMUNISM and Nazi his fall is assured.
BUT the hate I saw as the winner in this election is going to disembowel America, how can [and we need it desperately] America regain its unity?

Ban China?