Foxy,

Perhaps you could provide one teeny benefit that a Belly Republic would bring to your fellow Australians; if you are going to stick up for him help him in his hour of need.

As his advocate, perhaps you'll tell me when and where I insulted him?

Or are you going to run, as usual?

Foxy, hang on before you start cracking the champers, here we have a typical example of what I have described previously.
The link you refer to is exactly as you say, where-as the page I refer to says exactly what I say.
If you would kindly raise your eyes to the top of the page, I think any page will do.
If I'm not mistaken the word 'discussion' is prominent.
Maybe now you will understand me better rather than jump to conclusions.
It turns out we are both right, so it goes that it is fortuitous that it should happen now, it will vindicate me and the frustration I have had to endure in trying to make my points.
My reference has always been Google, I see no reason why I should doubt it.
So there you have it, you have witnessed my highlighting the problems with research.
I hope you will review your assessment of me now that you have seen that the terms of reference were tainted

The self assurance of ALTRAV and Ise Mise [that any opinion other than theirs is insane] are symptoms of an inactive brain.
Stuck in a low gear unable to combat words of others without both self promotion and needless insult they scream stay away.
having listed many many times, why I think it would benefit this country to become a republic ise mise refuses to see my list
mindlessly chanting like a petulant child tell me tell me.
his side kick, joins in their funny dance each patting the others back as they show they do not want answers they would not understand answers, they want to practice the only skill they have, insult
ise mise get up off your knees you are the best evidence I need to show why my country should leave the Royals and their crawlers behind

Belly,

If there was one (1) benefit for ordinary Australians you would be screaming it from the house tops, but you can't, you have failed.

Again you accuse me of insulting you but you can't give any instances, you have failed.

My political outlook is Republican and Socialist but I can not see any benefit in Australia changing the status quo, so I support the Monarchy; I'm a former member of the Labor Party, but that party changed; I didn't.
My youngest son is an ardent Labor Party member and an equally ardent republican, but as he's only 25 I expect that by the time he is 30 he will have woken up to the fraud that the Australian Labor Party has become.

So give me one benefit!!

Belly, if I may.
I think where you may be confusing those of us who have differing views than others, is that, where-as those opposite are adamant even passionate about their beliefs in, well, political parties to name one, we are not.
We have seen too much buggery and mis-management from govts.
We are skeptical and it does not take too much to find evidence of malfeasance.
We are then frustrated that we cannot do anything about it, and at the same time, looking around, we find an indifferent, indolent public, which only fuels the frustration which turns to anger.
And so it is that we vent when faced with those who are unwilling to see behind the facade and the lies that are before our very eyes, every day, especially when we try to point out these facts.
I don't particularly care about this latest joke, queer or not, I care that she is just another sent to con us Aussies, and the fact that she is just another in-experienced academic, who lives in a bubble so far above and out of touch with us plebs down here at ground zero, that she is of no use to us, only to herself and her precious career.
So yes, speaking for myself, until I see 'real' people to vote for, I will rubbish any and all these self-riotous, nobodies, and rightly so.
By comparison, not that I think she should be there either, but I've got more time for the stragglers, like Hanson and co., than ALL of the majors put together.
I hope that helps understand us a little better.

ALTRAV make zero mistake as one of the three blind mice long ago found you to lack understanding or real knowledge.
You fish in a long dry dam if you are trying to convince me you understand anything
all your own work you at least did that well
*warning rational conversation is impossible with you*