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Australia Must Dump the Paris Accord

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Former head of BHP (an organisation now on the climate scaremongering wagon), Jerry Ellis gives his reasons for Australia getting out of the Paris fraud:

“It is clear that the push to meet the Paris carbon dioxide emission targets is leading to higher power costs, and hence prices, and unreliable supply.

It is also a fact that the predictions of the warmists have not happened.

The IPCC scientific reports are stated in possibilities, yet the guidance for policy makers is written as certainty. A farce.

I hope the new leadership of the Australian Government has the courage to guide our country in a rational manner on this subject. as Angus Taylor seems keen to do, and abandons the Paris Treaty.

Jerry Ellis AO”

Ellis's call seems to be a reaction to a call from Green Climate Fund supporters to steal a further $400 million from taxpayers and electricity consumers. These rogues have committed $10 billion to who knows who, where or why; there is only $3 billion left, and they want more. We all know that 'more' will never be enough.

While many people believe that the Paris Accord is about reducing CO2, it is nothing of the kind; it is a UN stunt to transfer the wealth of the West to Third World countries who do not have to do anything for it. “It’s about advancing centralised control of people’s lives on a global scale.”

Lacking in the Western values that produce prosperity, these charity states will go through the money like a dose of salts, and the United Nations will have to put even more pressure on countries like Australia, or dream up a new scam. Our New PM must follow President Trump and get of the scheme. It's one of the 'must dos' if he is to have any chance of re-election.

(Source: 'Ex-BHP Chief: Scrap Paris Now', Tony Thomas, Quadrant Online 27/9/18)
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 29 September 2018 2:01:44 PM
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"It is also a fact that the predictions of the warmists have not happened."

It didn't prevent their fearmongering bs from the double-edged sword of:

1/ Undermining the economic situation for the nation and its citizens for socialist political reasons,
2/ Stealing from everyone's wallets, and making us pay for the rort in the process.

Summary:
Not only have we bent over and pull our cheeks apart for them to have their way with us;
We also willingly paid and thanked them for their services; in our decision to willingly allow and support them to do so.

- It's an 'below the belt' metaphor, but well, there it is.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 30 September 2018 1:02:15 PM
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The latest lies on climate from Tim Flannery et al appeared in a map showing predictions of dire events to come. The map shows where, around the Australian coast, sea levels will rise, cyclones will increase, and fires will rage.

One area to be flooded is the Great Australian Bight and the Nullarbor Plain. Tim the Twat expects us to believe that the sea will rise 60 metres over the cliffs of the Bight to flood the land.

The man should be certified. This is the sort of idiot who thought 'deniers’ should be locked up.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 October 2018 9:30:36 AM
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How much smarter is Trump than our cowardly pollies
Posted by runner, Monday, 1 October 2018 10:02:01 AM
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Ah, a SJW who sinned against the Catholic church is Social Justice Warrior. A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way,

The Twat's map marks states and says "coastal towns". Major surfing beaches on the Nullarbor Plain are good for entering the water but take a while to climb back to the camp site. There are rock bolts to attach abseiling gear to , very useful when dodging white pointers.

Fowlers Bay is a coastal town on Nullarbor , height 3m with sloping sand to the southern ocean storms . Smoky Bay : not so good , 1 m above sea level and refugees are streaming inland even as we speak with rumours of the Tim Flannery tsunami on the internet.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 1 October 2018 10:23:50 AM
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runner,

Yes. It's a great pity that Australia hasn't been able to produce someone like Donald Trump, although we would have to change our voting system to one where registered voters could have input into choosing candidates.

Australian society no longer exhibits true virtue. We have traded the genuine article for whatever draws applause on Twitter. We don't look for excellence. We don't seek the truth. There has been a wholesale collapse in the decency of our institutions.

If we want decent politicians, we have to join parties and demand the right to choose candidates, not leave it to parties rewarding party hacks and factional toadies.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 October 2018 12:05:06 PM
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Does anyone have a link to what Tim Flannery actually said? Considering the previous false accusation (on this board) that he predicted it would never rain again in Sydney, I refuse to take second hand reports of his claims at face value!

Jerry Ellis is wrong: the push to meet CO2 targets is making our power supply more reliable. And though the way it's been funded with cross subsidies has led to a rise in electricity prices, those now appear to have peaked.

Meanwhile the warming predictions of climate scientists are coming true - though of course it's a fact that what they predict will happen centuries from now has not yet happened.

Despite what the rightwing tinfoil hat brigade (including Tony Thomas) think, this is about CO2, not control or wealth transfer. There was no requirement for us to choose the expensive cross subsidies option (we could have used concessional loans instead, or even opted for nuclear power). But that's all moot now, as renewables have become cheaper than new fossil fuelled power plants.
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 1 October 2018 12:05:32 PM
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Here's the map which ttbn is talking about. It takes about 10 seconds to get things straight:

Climate Change and Extreme Weather Events - Climate Council
https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/uploads/1b331044fb03fd0997c4a4946705606b.pdf
by CORG AU -
p 60.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 1 October 2018 12:47:55 PM
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Some good news appears on the Australian Conservative site 29/9/18.

The Australian government has decided to freeze its level of funding to the UN Green Climate Fund, rather than succumb to the corrupt body's squeals for more money. Far from being anything to do with climate, millions of dollars have gone to “replace cooking stoves in Bangladesh
and providing ' gender responsive' (whatever that is) drinking water projects in Ethiopia.

A former member of the Green Climate Fund has written a “scathing critique” of the fund's operation. Jacob Waslander has said that, rather than being a dynamic global centre for climate finance, the board as been “mired by ineffective decision-making in an atmosphere of distrust”.

United Nations, globalism, wealth redistribution – all things for Australia to avoid like the plague.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 October 2018 1:49:34 PM
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And NASA with its nosy drones just cherry-picking the left side of the Arctic. Stop the NASA - send its images to the bin or Manus space- junk penal colony.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 1 October 2018 1:59:49 PM
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Apart from reporting on the government's slashing of funds to the UN and its climate capers which have nothing to do with the climate, the Australian Conservatives believe that, as well as the resisting the UN's extortion, we should follow the U.S. and withdraw from the UN Human Rights Council, which “regularly tries to lecture Australia on how we conduct ourselves as a nation”, despite the fact that the council is infested with despots who wouldn't know human rights from a hole in the ground.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 October 2018 2:08:01 PM
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Thanks nick.

I think I see what's happened: ttbn's noticed a symbol on Figure 40 (a diagrammatic map NOT a detailed threat map) at a scale that would make it hundreds of kilometres long, and assumed it related to the Nullarbor not Ceduna!

Stuth, ttbn, get a life! If you honestly think a minor cartographic misalignment really means Tim "expects us to believe that the sea will rise 60 metres over the cliffs of the Bight to flood the land" then it's you, not he, who needs to be certified.

But of course you don't really think that's what he means at all, do you? You're just trying to discredit him because you don't like what he has to say. Having failed to find any objective errors, you resorted to nitpicking, ad hominem and lies.
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 1 October 2018 3:39:46 PM
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He keeps nitpicking ouch
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 1 October 2018 4:18:34 PM
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As for the Paris accord, it is a farce we don’t need, can’t afford and achieves nothing useful. Obsessing over our emissions and saddling ourselves with what is now among the highest electricity and food prices in the world is beyond stupid. The physical, technical and economic obstacles to a significant decrease in CO2 emissions through increases in solar and wind power is simply a mass fantasy of a large sector of the populace with little awareness of the technological reality on which their existence depends. (Marine biologist, Walter Starck).
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 4 October 2018 8:04:39 PM
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almost no one would be posting in olo if not for coal. The earth worshippers would be the first to cry if they were to lose any of their comforts.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 4 October 2018 8:53:47 PM
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Yep. They just don't get it.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 4 October 2018 11:07:11 PM
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