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Wow! 3.6% Of Power Now Supplied By Renewables

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Global warmers climate scammers please explain this.

Around the coastline of Australia are rocks marked at the highest tide by a British scientific expedition at the start of the 1900s at points remain exposed at highest tide today.

High tide marks at Port Arthur Tasmania and in Sydney Harbour at Fort Denison too.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 6 September 2018 3:32:20 PM
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I doubt if anybody denies that the planet has a finite
amount of resources or that it can tolerate only a
limited amount of pollution. If we continue doing
what we're currently doing - changes may not happen
within our life-times bu they will happen. If world
population continues to grow rapidly, if industrialisation
spreads around the world, and if pollution and resource
depletion continues at an increasing rate - we need to
ask ourselves - where is human society heading?

I've stated previously that the most optimistic answer to
these questions would be that, one way or another,
sweeping social changes await us.

Those only interested in their own life-spans and
not in our future generations - keep supporting the vested
interests to continue to do what they are doing. The hell
with the future. You won't be around to see it.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 6 September 2018 4:41:27 PM
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meanwhile Michael Moore and Flannery have scammed the public and continue to make idiotic false and failed predictions.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 6 September 2018 5:11:12 PM
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Luciferase,
"Keep believing in the Storage Fairy..."

That sums up your arrogance and stupidity! You make heroic assumptions about the cost and capability of SMRs, while simultaneously likening the belief that there will be improvements in storage technology to belief in fairies!

Renewables plus gas was aways going to be a transitional arrangement rather than the ultimate solution (except maybe if excess electricity is used to synthesise gas). And we do have to be careful to avoid gas leaks (which are easily detectable with infrared laser technology). But it need not even result in more gas being used than is at present. And it has great potential for big reductions in emissions sooner - but it's not your favoured solution, so you assume it to be worthless.

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ALTRAV,
You seem to be unaware of the reasoning behind claims that the oceans will rise a few metres. Regardless of how much water's in them, thermal expansion will increase their volume, causing them to rise. It's a slow process, but that also means it's slow to stop.

Well, I say it's a slow process, but that's relative. It's still faster than the melting of ice sheets, which (due to their great thickness) could result in a much bigger rise in sea levels if they ever melt.

WTF do you mean by "a fantasy" when you describe renewables?
Your dismissal of pumped storage indicates you're totally clueless as to what our requirements are.
Renewables are ALREADY playing a major role in power generation, and that role is increasing rapidly.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 6 September 2018 5:18:06 PM
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"I doubt if anybody denies that the planet has a finite amount of resources "

The world's resources are finite in only the most esoteric sense. There is no chance that we'll run out of any resources in even the long term future. Even at current rates we have coal and oil and gas enough to keep us going for centuries.

We've never run out of a resource. there's no reason to think we ever will.

" that it can tolerate only a limited amount of pollution."

The solution to the perceived pollution problem is economic growth. Pollution isn't a problem in rich countries. Its only a problem, and probably a passing problem, in poor and developing countries. Beijing 2018 is LA 1968. Beijing 2058 will be LA 2018.
Unless they fall back into economic stagnation.

So if you fret about pollution, cheer economic growth.

"and resource depletion continues at an increasing rate"

What resources are being depleted?
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 6 September 2018 5:42:11 PM
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I'm no hero. Here's one of many SMR's coming that one municipality is already planning to load follow renewables. Read all about it, and more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2018/06/22/nuscales-small-modular-nuclear-reactor-reliable-resilient-and-flexible/#5cf6a12c1139

Enough piss'n'wind. Show me the money. Where is the great storage hope? You've got nothing, and there is nothing in the wind that's viable in the timeframe we have to mitigate AGW.

Come out of the closet, Aidan, you're just another antinuke, nothing special, who believes in the Storage Fairy.
Posted by Luciferase, Thursday, 6 September 2018 5:47:57 PM
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