indy your direction,,, even you must know, is far from everyones wanted direction, you from years of observation, have views far from average, maybe I do too but it remains true others as is their right, have differing views

others as is their right, have differing views
Belly,
Of course & they also have the right & are even offered the privilege of advise from those who have realistic views moulded from a less selfish mentality.

Don't confuse socalism with government owned.
There are good cases to be made for some government ownership.
Socalism is that system that has ALL business & farming government owned.
Socalism if you look at those times when such governments were established
they were the murderers of multi millions.
National Socialist of Deutchland, Communist party of USSR, Pol Pot,
Mao's China etc etc.
Each of them were only exceeded by the Islamic invasion of India.
Ironically Islam advocates a theological government enforcing their
ideological laws, just like socialists.

Bazz you and I grew up in a country that was while forever capitalist, in part socialist and both parties wanted it that way, health education some public housing and much more, indy to differ from your view does not automatically make me wrong or you right

Differing views aren't automatically opposing. They can be parallel & just need to be viewed to accommodate & compliment each other. Different areas, same principles. I'm advocating for less selfishness & more integrity. if we all strive for the common good mentality then good will become more common.

Bazz,

Take a look at countries like -
Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, Norway,
Ireland, Belgium and even New Zealand.

They're quite interesting.